Chris Lambert, who worked as a CBS News consultant, pieced together what he learned from people who were there that night. I never realized its the same guy that harassed [Sarah], he said. Paul Flores may have wanted a fresh start in Southern California, but Chris Lambert says, he could not seem to break old habits. James Murphy: Well, the location where all this activity occurred is where they found the biological material. As of this date, Paul is single. According to a county probation bail report obtained by the San Luis Obispo Tribune, "biological evidence" was found under Ruben's deck. Wiggot: pfo5vr0 total 1100 m2 800 m2 de area prod. The Arroyo Grande cops, Jane said, favored Floress story that she willingly drank and had sex that night. The fact is, there is a lot of sort of evidence. I say that because you will see, when you actually listen to what comes out, its not what it seems to be, Sanger said. But to fully understand Chris Lambert's contribution, you have to go back to the beginning. I dont like to talk about it to even him, she said. And yes, we did find physical evidence at, at least two homes. PODCAST EPISODE 5: If you were making a film about a new law enforcer who's coming to a small town to save the day, you'd probably cast Parkinson. Investigators could have excavated the yard, but their decision not to was a crushing blow for the Smart family. DAN DOW [press conference]: But the allegation that he was committing or attempting to commit a rape when he killed her, is the basis for which we are able to file first-degree felony murder charges. The lawsuit claims they were moving Kristin's remains. JAMES MURPHY: In May of 96 were you a student at Cal Poly? He gets his arm around her torso and her arm around his neck, and he's helping her walk. Copyright 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. All rights reserved. But Murphy says there were other incidents that should have raised alarm bells about him with law enforcement from the very beginning. Kristin Smart has been missing since 1996 and the San Luis County Obispo District Attorney allege she was killed during a rape. At the time of Smart's disappearance, Flores was a 19-year-old food science major at Cal-Poly. But Flores basketball friends told investigators that he already had the black eye when he showed up for the game. Chris Lambert: They didn't bring cadaver dogs with them. Any evidence that might have been there was long gone. All of Kristin's personal belongings including her purse, her money, her I.D. She told him that shortly after moving in, she was washing her car in the driveway and found an earring next to the left front tire. People are watching Ruben Flores and Susan Flores and Paul Flores. But a massive search did not happen until she'd been gone for more than a month. She regretfully denounced them as cruel rumors at the time. So before leaving, Margarita handed over her keys to get back into Muir Hall. That mother, Mary Lassiter, described it to Chris Lambert. . That witness initially came forward to Chris Lambert, who passed the information to the sheriff's office and Murphy. Lived In Dublin CA, King Of Prussia PA, Norristown PA. Related To Cooper Flores. The only thing that she remembered next was being dragged in the barely lit street by her alleged rapist on one arm and his pal on the other. And that's what I've been doing for a long, long time, along with a lot of other people. But Lindsey says her sister was happiest when she was traveling. Chris Lambert's podcast caught the attention of millions of listeners and sparked new interest in the decades-old unsolved case of Kristin Smart. If you use a windshield cover, you can at least forget about scrapping the ice off your windshield to save some time and hassle. Over the years, while Stan Smart hiked every trail around California's Central Coast in hopes of finding Kristin's remains, Denise relentlessly pushed law enforcement to do more. Chris Lambert: Paul worked with a number of women that he made incredibly uncomfortable girls who he tried to make a pass at sexually, girls that he tried to force to kiss him. But soon Flores took his shot with Jane after another drop-off at her moms house. Another frustration for the Smarts: at the time Kristin disappeared, investigators weren't aware that Paul Flores's parents were separated and living apart. They didn't look at the Flores family's vehicles. [emotional] I will go outside at nighttime and I'll look up at the full moon and I'll think that that kid's buried somewhere real close. Flores roommate was out of town that weekend, and Paul knew he had three full days in that room (alone), Peuvrelle told the jury. View Details. An important tip came in after a February 2020 search of Paul, Susan and Ruben's properties. Ermelinda Flores, 81. Alicia Tejada is the field producer and Addison Briley is the associate producer. Had Flores been caught and convicted of his alleged sexual assault in 1994, perhaps Smart would still be alive. Chris Lambert: I remember seeing it on the news it was something scary and they were talking about it pretty regularly. Chris Lambert: They're hopeful, but they've also been let down so many times before. D.A. It had been the focus of widespread speculation for more than two decades especially her planter boxes. But every Sunday when she called her parents, they encouraged her to stick it out. Chris Lambert: There was a man climbing her trellis and trying to get inside her balcony, very intoxicated and refusing to leave. Back then, Jane remembered Flores pulling up to her on multiple occasions behind the wheel of a green pickup truck. It is also what the Smarts have been waiting for for more than a quarter of a century. Copyright 2023 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. In October 1996, Mary and her family moved in. The National Read Across America Day takes place every year on March 2, Geisels birthday. They also did not focus on Paul Flores immediately, waiting six days to formally interview him. Jonathan Vigliotti: How did you know she hadn't been back? And she was growing as an individual. Flores allegedly told campus police, I did not find Kristin attractive. I'm going to go back to the dorms. In April 2021, investigators charged Paul Flores, left, with Kristin Smart's murder, and his then-80-year-old father Ruben, as an accessory after the fact. / CBS News, (This story previously aired on May 8, 2021. Because of the statute of limitations, Dow says, Paul Flores can't be charged with rape. He slammed me and then pushed me up against the inside wall by the toilet, his hands were on my upper arms and he started telling me all these sick things he was going to do to me.. And here's your key." In March 2021, the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Office served a search warrant at the Arroyo Grande home of Ruben Flores. Like so many freshmen, Kristin struggled. I was like, Who the hell do you think you are?. so eventually he unlocked you know, the apartment door, and I left. In one of Paul's police interviews he mentioned that he wanted to be let out of the interview because he needed to help clean up concrete at his mom's house So, what was being done in Susan Flores's backyard in the weeks after Kristin went missing? Sources tell us investigators discovered videos and photographs on Flores' computer showing him engaged in sexual activity with at least 10 different women, apparently in various states of consciousness. A . James Murphy: Paul Flores had a reputation amongst the girls that knew him at Cal Poly as being a creeper that he was always trying to hit on women. I remember thinking: If my moms not home Im going to die right here.. Later, he told detectives that Smart was walking just fine and returned to her dorm while he returned to his dorm. Its not a lie. Podcaster Chris Lambert says that after 24 years, "I think it's time [for Flores] to talk." Jonathan Vigliotti: There was a lot of focus on how Kristin was drinking what sounded a lot like victim shaming. Ann-Marie Christian: Her parents reminded me of my parents. Ann-Marie Christian: became friends with Kristin in elementary school. It might be helpful to the investigation.. But Mary Lassiter says the earring matched the necklace Kristin is seen wearing on the billboard. Margarita Campos: I'll never forget her shadow against the building, this apartment complex, just standing like kind of cross-armed with the long leg And she was just kind of like looking at me like, [sighs] you're really walking away now, like you're really, you're leaving? Other names that Ermelinda uses includes Ermelinda M Macarthur, Ermelinda M Flores, Ermelinda M Mac Arthur, Ermelinda Flores and Ermelinda M Thomas. Lindsey Smart Stewart: She had traveled the world before she even made it to college. It's just a motivator for me. I guess the answer is yes. Somos la comunidad inmobiliaria ms grande de Mxico que conecta de forma gratuita a quienes ofrecen y buscan cualquier tipo de propiedad. D.A. James Murphy: Somebody found an earring that they say was Kristin Smart's jewelry in the driveway. Critics called. My job was to hunt them. They were soon joined by another partygoer, Paul Flores. She loved swimming and skiing. Paul Flores was the last person seen with Kristin Smart before she vanished in 1996. You just don't talk, and you get away with it. And Murphy and Sinclair believe they can prove it. Kristin did not have a purse, money, her I.D. When The Daily Beast tracked Flores down outside his home last month, he didnt mount much of a defense. He says "no.". Authorities made clear that they plan to use Flores' alleged predatory behavior against him. It is every parent's worst nightmare. The Kristin Smart disappearance: After 26 years, Paul Flores is convicted of murder. And for a few moments Jane came to and saw Flores having his way with her. But further investigation of the Flores's two trucks seemed impossible. She was the last person other than Paul Flores to see Kristin alive. That's when Denise Smart learned her daughter had not been seen all weekend, and all her belongings were still in her dorm room. Most students had taken off but Kristin had stayed on campus. During opening statements of Flores murder trial this week, prosecutors played a video of Flores stumbling over questions from Cal Poly campus police detectives inside an interrogation room. Jonathan Vigliotti: How significant was that? Regresar a la bsqueda. Chris Lambert: They just have never given up and are never going to give up on their daughter. Kristin Smart Murder Trial: Who's who The judge only allowed 1 media pool camera inside the courtroom. Denise Pearce | Longtime family friend: Things were gonna get better and, you know, and and they did. A student named Paul Flores, Susan's son, volunteered to take her back. Mary Lassiter says the earring she found in the driveway matched the necklace Kristin Smart is seen wearing on this billboard. James Murphy: So why would Susan Flores, her boyfriend, and Ruben Flores be up all night long working under that deck. Not at all. 2020 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. According to multiple party-goers, Smart was incapacitated unable to walk or stand on her own because of something she drank at the party, DeputyDistrict AttorneyChristopherPeuvrelle told the jury. She never saw accepting the rides as anything but wholesome. Monterey County Weekly photographer Daniel Dreifuss shot these photos during yesterday's opening statements.#KristinSmart pic.twitter.com/Qlanj3fKK6. Smart was talking with and socializing with several different males at the party. So now you've got three different stories about how he got that black eye. Chris Lambert: Everything else, he took the Fifth Amendment. The sheriff's office still wasn't convinced they had enough evidence against Flores. Four months after that futile search, Paul Flores was brought before a grand jury. The interrogation was recorded just days after Smarts college friends alerted police that she was missing. Our roommate came in and yelled Leave her alone. It sounded like a digital watch alarm, but Lassiter couldn't find a watch anywhere outside. Back in San Luis Obispo, the Smarts, feeling ignored by the sheriff's office, continued a relentless campaign to get them to do more to find their daughter. James Murphy: I'm not at liberty to describe how it was documented. Chris Lambert: Kristin's father would come down and hike every trail he could find on the Central Coast. Just very involved with their children. Ermelinda Flores' property in Washington state has been searched by investigators in February 2020. You can go." Flores replies that he was just fibbing. I dont know of any lying Ive done. I believed him but he was probably cheating on me.. Lives in: Arroyo Grande CA. In June of 1996, the San Luis Obispo County Sheriffs Office brought in four cadaver dogs to sniff dorms on campus. The day after my sister disappeared, Paul Flores had a black eye and scratches on him. Four months earlier, Kristin Smart, a freshman at California Polytechnic State University better known as Cal Poly had gone to a party on Friday, May 24 the start of the Memorial Day weekend. Whatever happened in those early hours, one thing is indisputable: Kristin Smart has never been seen again. Ruben's attorney, Harold Mesick, dismissed the evidence against his client as "so minimal as to shock the conscience.". He promised the Smarts that solving Kristin's case would be a priority. After seizing an old car, digging in the back yard and taking evidence San Luis Obispo County sheriff deputies concluded their search of an Arroyo Grande home related to the 1996 disappearance of Kristin Smart. But you have to understand, she was a really independent free spirit. And while they did not rush to investigate Flores, Kristin's family says campus police were very quick to judge her. An earring that appeared to match the necklace Kristin is wearing on the billboard. 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