Thicker leather, and rebuildable if needed. The Angel TT starts with the Velo Angel Glide and shortens it. As a visual package, the Prologo Dimension AGX gravel saddle looks rather refined and should complement your bike's aesthetic pretty easily. Ive got a C15 on mine. neither could I. For information on Bike Perfect's testing procedures and how our scoring system works, see our how we test page. Most companies who use a relief channel use a deep channel that splits the shell from the nose to the rear of the saddle. Lovely from the off. The Verse line of saddles from Bontrager targets men and women and all surfaces and it works. It's important to continue your quest for the perfect saddle because you can have any of the best gravel bikes and wear the best cycling shorts available, but pair them with an ill-fitting saddle and your ride could be reduced to discomfort, pain, and worst of all, walking. I ordered one from him and am waiting for it to arrive. The all weather version doesn't seem to flex as much as the original. I don't understand how anyone can ride one that is not carved. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. I can't tell much of a difference between my c17s and my carved carbon 158. This topic has 26 replies, 25 voices, and was last updated. A long, thin and flat saddle that allows for plenty of leg movement, Lots of flexibility where your legs meet the saddle, Plenty of grip at the front of the saddle, Ultra-stylish and so durable theres never a need to worry about scraping it, A men's-specific carbon-performance saddle priced very reasonably, Drainage for water in the pressure relief channel, Sharp at the edge of the pressure relief channel, Well-priced saddle designed to cope with the rigors of off-road riding and racing, A high-quality, low-price option with a gentle wave and lots of flexibility in the shell, A versatile saddle for men or women, on-road and off-road, and available in a size for everyone, Thoughtful details specific to gravel come together to form one of the lightest saddles on the market, An incredibly comfortable and supportive saddle that combines the Power shape, Mimic foam, and Elaston technology, Mimic foam perfectly imitates the density of soft tissues, Mimic gradually moulds into shape for long-lasting and personalised support, If you like the short nose saddle trend but want a more flexible rear and low weight, the Velo delivers, A waved profile, short length and wide pressure-releasing cutout with medium padding, A little longer than most short-nosed saddles with a design meant for stability, We check over 250 million products every day for the best prices, Composite carbon co-injected Nylon WingFlex, Sit-bone width of 9-12cm and sit-bone width of 12-16cm, How to choose the best gravel bike saddle, Specialized Power Pro Elaston Mimic Saddle, three primary considerations for saddle fitment. The Cambium C13 is so durable we can't imagine it ever wearing out, even after a crash. Bike Perfect is supported by its audience. Love Brooks. Gravel races with long hours of hard riding, where aerodynamics matter, is an ideal use case. At the premium end, carbon rails are specced as they are considerably lighter and the carbon weave can be tuned to absorb vibrations. As saddles have got shorter, Specialized has been at the forefront with its Power saddle range. Whatever your needs there are some general ideas to consider, which we run through at the bottom of this page, but first, we've gathered our pick of the best gravel bike saddles to help you find something that will work for you. He will happily talk for hours about the minutia of cycling tech but also has an understanding that most people just want things to work. Lovely bit of kit, very comfy and I like the aesthetics of the thing. However, carbon is not well suited for mounting the best bikepacking bags as any straps mounted to the rails can wear away the carbon and compromise the saddle. It started off on my Kaffenback but the Vaya has bigger squashy tyres and the saddle seems more comfy (its still breaking in) and I reckon it will be a keeper. Ive always had flite style saddles but fancied a change. The saddle uses a more classic shape, rather than a short nose, to give riders the real estate to move forward and back on the saddle to help balance weight distribution on steep climbs. The Ergon SR Pro Carbon is a rare offering at just over $100 for top of the line materials and low weight. The sides, and front tip, of the saddle have downward angles so it's easy to move on and off without catching the edges. When he isnt shredding the gnar in the Tweed Valley, sleeping in bushes or tinkering with bikes, he is writing tech reviews forBike Perfect and the muckier side ofCyclingnews, Rides: Canyon Strive, 24 Bicycles Le Toy 3, Surly Steamroller. Heres why you can trust us. Weight is rarely the best lens through which to view components and that's especially true of gravel saddles. Im using a Cambium C13. The B17 is definitely more comfortable but it ought to be after over 10 years of use. So far I am very happy with it. Pro used its already popular Stealth road saddle as the basis for its gravel-orientated Stealth Offroad seat. Very happy. I rode on a Brooks B-17 for several years. When it comes to saddles there are few brands with the name recognition of Fizik. As well as the shape of the saddle, which can be quite a personal consideration, when youre looking for a gravel bike saddle youll want to research the material and weight of the saddle rails, how much padding there is to absorb some of the vibrations, and whether there is a hard-wearing finish to deal with all the extra dirt and spray. Unlike a road bike saddle, mud, dirt, trees, traction, hard impacts and branches come into play for gravel saddles. As mentioned above, can also make strange squeaking noises on bumpy terrain. Disappointingly Prologo doesn't offer the Scratch AGX in a PAS (cutout) version for extra relief as it does with the other Scratch models. A quality saddle is a quality saddle no matter the terrain but you should consider the unique challenges of off-road riding when choosing the best gravel bike saddle. assuming that Im currently riding a charge spoon/ Madison flux which cambium would you buy for gravel bike (escapade) and rigid do everything else bike (longitude)? (seems like a common theme with the bike) I just ordered an SA H-2 saddle for it, after talking to a guy in my gravel group at a ride. Move forward onto the central peak and you've effectively raised your saddle height. Well, I took a chance today and ordered the Selle Anatomic X2. Gravel bikes put the rider in a far more aggressive position than even the most race-bred cross-country bike, this position is going to change the way your sit bones interact with a saddle. Thorpey, cheers. All of my cambiums are carved. New distribution avenues hope to change all that and if you haven't taken a look now is a good time. I had a C17 given to me by my brother who couldnt get on with it. After a few adjustments ( proper fitting) I have easily decided this will be a much better saddle than the saddle that came with my Checkpoint. It's only available in one size: 146mm wide, which means if you have particularly narrow or wide sit bones, then this won't be for you, but for those it will fit, the AllRoad Carbon FX saddle is a great option. If you are a gravel racer your needs are going to be a lot different than that of a bikepacker. I had to make some adjustments (tweaking angle and front/back) after the first few miles but once I did that it clearly made for comfort with very little break in. Nice and light with a bit of give in the Ti rails. Still, if you can have your cake and eat it there's no reason not to choose a lightweight saddle. While creating a lightweight masterpiece, Sella Italia didn't skimp on gravel-specific features. There's also protection on both sides to protect from scrapes. The needs of a road cyclist or a mountain biker are different than the needs of a gravel cyclist. Fabric has gone for a flexible nylon base that provides plenty of shock absorption as it moves. In contrast when it was on the Burls of shitness it creaked like ****. Sean's an experienced cyclocross and XC racer who's also racked up many miles on gravel bikes over the years. On a road bike, a steep gradient will often have the rider up and out of the saddle which also gives a break from the sitting position, but it's not always possible on loose terrain. Compared to a road bike, gravel cycling might have you moving around on your saddle more. Leather ones need broken in, Cambium ones dont. [url=https://flic.kr/p/PJg3a3]20161217_125106[/url] by jamesanderson2010, on Flickr. Cyclingnews is supported by its audience. C17 and C17 cutout on the cross and road/gravel respectively, I found the cambiums did give a bit more after a few weeks. Especially since I can get up to 65% off retail through a discount program I am part of through my job. I've riding a B17 for years on my Cannondale T1000 and am very satisfied. Velo Saddles is the manufacturer behind many of the saddles from other brands on the market. It produces over 15 million saddles a year and is the largest manufacturer of bike saddles in the world. The most popular sizes and configurations of previous saddles have come together in a saddle designed for everyone. It's a little on the heavy side when compared to some of the other saddles on our list but Specialized has included its SWAT mount which can be used to neatly mount storage, hydration, action cameras or rear lights. A big difference! For more details, read our full Repente Artax GL review. While a saddle may be comfortable for miles and miles on your mountain bike, the significantly different riding position of a gravel bike could mean that same saddle quickly becomes a pain in the ass. The AllRoad Open-Fit Carbon FX has been designed by Selle San Marco as a saddle for adventuring both off- and on-road. All-road or no road, this is a saddle designed for long rides, Medium padding takes the sting out of rough roads, Rail size may not be compatible with many seatpost clamps, Prologo's popular T-shape saddle gets an Adventure, Gravel, and CX makeover, Wide distribution of weight over the saddle, One of the lightest off-road saddles available, Limited forwards and backwards adjustment on the rails, Popular short-nose saddle with titanium rails and carbon body, Planted seating position wont suit everyone, A super light but comfortable XC/gravel saddle, Gravel specific saddle with great vibration absorption, Road saddle that can double up for aggressive gravel racing, Beefed up off-road version of Pro's popular Stealth road saddle, Surprisingly light for a steel rail saddle, Won't suit those looking for a locked-in riding position, We check over 250 million products every day for the best prices, How to choose the best gravel bike saddle, Selle San Marco AllRoad Open-Fit Carbon FX, Road superstar Peter Sagan to race this year's e-MTB Worlds in Les Gets, Restrap Bar Bag Small review Based in Edinburgh he has some of the best mountain biking and gravel riding in the UK right on his doorstep. Selle San Marco says that this special closed foam double density foam adds comfort yet still provides support by moving with the rider's pelvis. Bike Perfect is part of Future US Inc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. C17 not too wide/ big then? CtB apparently owns the market in Cambium saddles. While the road version has a spread of rail options the off-road saddle only comes with steel rails. The 158 is 4mm narrower for some reason. Kevin Schmidt, the owner of Pedal PT, and an expert in bike fit has three primary considerations for saddle fitment. Win a pair of Shimano ME7 shoes worth 180! The Angel series of saddles is the highest performance saddles that Velo offers. It will change as you age and it will change as you take part in different types of cycling. The shape is far more personal and harder to determine than width. I want to replace the stock saddle that came with my Trek Checkpoint. The X1 is an easy saddle to keep coming back to its cushioning and compliance do a great job of absorbing vibration while providing support, for gravel and for mountain biking. You can find out more in our full review of the Terra Argo X1. I imagine time would have loosened it up a bit. The fit and comfort of a saddle should be your number one consideration, these extra features should just be considered as a bonus rather than a selling point. The microfiber cover features friction-reducing edging to aid pedaling and Ergon has added a Topeak QuickClick accessory mount. The two saddles are exactly the same, except that the Angel TT is wider and shorter. Selle San Marco has reinforced the saddle rails with a crossing X shape knot (Dynamic Node Action) to reduce twisting forces from pedaling without affecting compliance. The Selle Italia X-LR Kit Carbonio Superflow is so light it makes offerings from other brands seem unreasonable. If you're like our tester and like to shift around as you ride, you may want to consider the Specialized Power Arc instead. The last point Kevin brings up is height. Whether it works for you though depends on how much you like to shift position as you ride. Of course, there are road saddles that can match the 130gweight, yet the X-LR Kit Carbonio Superflow achieves this without sacrificing performance features and still manages to be comfortable off-road. There is a slight wave but it's not aggressive and strikes a nice balance between locking the rider in and allowing movement. Instead of a shell with padding and a cover, there's a carbon fibre frame covered with a thick piece of rubber. The Mimic variation of the Power saddle line-up replaces the cut-out with a depression, paired with a much softer padding at the front. Ergon is a brand best known for taking a scientific approach to your bike's touchpoints, developing a range of ergonomic grips and saddles with the goal of improving on-bike comfort and control. It proved nothing but a joy to sit on across several bikes from gravel to MTB. Height: 5'9" Instead, it means level in a way that keeps you feeling stable and not sliding forward or backwards when pedalling. In the same way that neither your road wheels nor your mountain bike wheels are quite right for the job of gravel riding, the best gravel bike saddles are designed to offer that 'goldilocks' balance between weight, comfort, durability and comfort. PathLessPedaled on youtube has a good video about alternatives to the Brooks. The progressive slope at the sides gave me flexibility and meant our tester felt part of the saddle rather than just on it, and the rise at the back gave me something to leverage against on climbs. The carbon fiber shell has a long shape and a generous cutout is long enough to add comfort across the full length of the saddle. Prologo's Multi-Sector System design uses zonal padding to tailor comfort and support, allowing each section of the saddle to work independently. I bought it because I borrowed my buddy's, which was several years old and felt great for the week or two i tested it. If you want a more locked-in feeling then a waved profile, as viewed from the side, will help keep you in a single position. On test, the Power Expert was definitely comfortable and the short nose and narrow tip gave a free-spinning, unencumbered feeling for your legs. Trek, and its accessory company Bontrager, is a company with a culture of data. The SR Pro Carbon uses a design targeted for men who ride in an aggressive position. Too tight by buy a C15. Seems like this topic has been closed. Although not broken in, It felt much better and I never felt the need for relief. It's lightweight at 160g, and comes with a waved profile to provide a locked in feel. versatile bag and holster bikepacking combo, Sea to Summit Ultralight mat review high in comfort and low in weight, Apidura Expedition Handlebar Pack and Accessory Pocket lightweight, bombproof, waterproof legend, Kade Edwards interview the hugely versatile rider on DH's future, riding with Brandon Semenuk and more. It weighs in at just 164g and the GL has a rear width of 132mm; broader-based riders may wish to look at the GLM which is 145mm wide at the same weight. The sloped shoulders and flat nose kept out of the way of his legs and the slightly raised rear kept him well centered. You can get this done at a bike shop, as part of a bike fit or do it yourself at home. The smooth back makes it easy to slide on and off the saddle and get your weight over the rear on descents. It seems that i have a brooks shaped arse. The real strength in the Fabric Race Shallow saddle is the design of the base. And even within the gravel cycling umbrella, there is a huge range of different types of riding. Rides: Orbea Orca Aero, Cannondale Topstone Lefty, Cannondale CAAD9, Trek Checkpoint, Priority Continuum Onyx. If you like a secure, planted feeling, however, the Power Expert is well worth checking out. Once you've got the saddle, make sure it's level. Be careful though, it's easy to fall into a correlation without causation hole of never-ending saddle purchases. For our tester's shape and style, the Scratch AGX hit the spot. When you need to keep your weight over the rear wheel to hold traction on a steep hill you can't stand to climb. Thanks for all the advice I pulled the trigger on a Cambium C17 from Charlie TBM. These attach to a carbon-reinforced nylon shell which uses Fizik's Wingflex design to further dampen vibrations. For more details, check out our full Prologo Scratch M5 AGX review. The wide flare around the sides and edges help you move back off the saddle when you want to. Mind you, a lot of the bike did. There's a certain mystique about Brooks saddles. C13 wide on my summer bike. It may be super lightweight but the Artax GL stayed utterly trouble-free, even when our tester was on multiple, all-day route recce sessions. Brooks is the best for about any type of riding other than competition. The weight of the carbon-railed version is very respectable too and Fabric's design has proven that it's more than durable enough to take on many miles of rough gravel riding. Despite that, until recently, they were almost unheard of and actually purchasing one was near impossible. A carbon composite shell and carbon rails can make for an expensive saddle. Cyclingnews is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. Fabric's Scoop saddle range is the AK-47 of saddles with a shape that seems to work for a huge variety of riders. The Power Expert features a generous cutout, too, which reduces pressure on sensitive areas and helps blood flow. With its light weight and clever build, in testing we found the AllRoad Open-Fit Carbon FX unobtrusive, yet supportive in just the right way. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Hopefully this will be a comfortable saddle. Earlier I had posted my thoughts on the Brooks saddles. As you move around with a waved saddle your fit will change. I hope so. Then it started creaking (i've read online solutions on how to fix that). By How is your SA saddle doing after a few month of use now? You just hope you don't have all your memories in the same ride. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. A B17 and a B17 narrow. The standard saddle fitting rules apply, you need to measure your sit bones to determine the correct width so you are properly supported when riding. The padding is in the right places and our tester found it surprisingly comfortable for multi-hour rides, although we wouldn't choose it for a multi-day trip. He's been riding gravel bikes since their onset so know's what works and what doesn't. The gravel bike niche has already developed its own geometry, groupsets and tires so it isnt surprising that as brands have developed a deeper understanding of gravel riding, componentry such as the best gravel bike pedals, saddles and handlebars have followed. To many, the idea of a gravel bike saddle will sound like a marketing department somewhere jumped onto the gravel bandwagon in order to sell a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. The best gravel bike saddles not only give the best fit and comfort, but offer gravel-specific features, such as covers for the cutout or luggage fitments, to cater to the unique demands of riding off-road over long distances. However, a saddle is one of the most personal things on a bike, and the right saddle for you will come down to a multitude of things, including the type of riding you are doing, which is why the best gravel bike saddle will differ from the best road bike saddles. FORUM LOG ON FOR NEW MEMBERS - PLEASE READ, Bike Shows (NAHBS, Interbike, Eurobike), Components (Bikes, Tires, Wheels, and Other Components). Of course, 'gravel cycling' covers a broad spectrum. I did have it adjusted properly at two different bike shops, still is a painful saddle to put up with. i wanna try the c17 cambium for my carbonda build. It may perform admirably, but it will be compromised as gravel riding is not its main application.
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