Was going to purchase a TRP and was looking at RRA ar. Is there a list somewhere? Never give one inch or miles will be lost. Do you know how much the dealer bought them for? Bill Ruger was key in the implementing of the 94 AWB, refusing to sell evil 20+ round magazines to anyone but .gov entities? After the next civil war, we wont allow another one. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. Antifa is showing what they are willing to do, watch their fellow komrad take a LEO beanbag round to the wang and keep marching. 84283412342. And by the way, sarcastically calling people badasses loses its effect when you get so butthurt by an article that you start calling the author a pu$$y. When S&W is in the position to potentially block anti-gun legislation but decides not to because it is better for their business even if it screws their customers, THEN YOU WILL SEE ME call for an S&W boycott. Its their prerogative. What flavor is it, and how much do you want? Join up with other interest groups if common goals can be found. So Rock River Arms story is complete crap and a bald faced LIE on the order of, I did not have sex with that women. But I wont EVER support a company who actively supports an infringement of any kind. Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. I cant imagine the CEOs of those two companies werent in the loop on these negotiations. I thought it was great that they were living in the same liberal hell hole that I was living in. WebA similar thing happened with Yeti and the NRA, where Yeti ended their NRA-specific discount program but included them in a broader discount program. I bought my first Rock Any I have to ask WHY? When you sell high dollar items like firearms, it is really, really, unbelievably stupid, to piss off your customer base at rebate time. The company is based in Genesco Illinois, near Chicago. These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. Yuge. Bill Ruger retired from the company in 2000 and died in 2002. Glad I happened upon this article. They use forged parts and at least the Chinese are honest to let you know where the parts come from (China) whereas with Springfield it is a toss-up where the parts are made (I heard from Taiwan, Canada, even the Czech Republic!!). Same here. Fight it. and thats where the idea of 10 round limit for magazines originated,right from the mouth of Bill Ruger. Im sorry, I mean they would ask after putting you and your fliers in the dumpster. I bought 6 smith & wessons before I ever knew about the incident. Good luck RRA. After the backlash he closed down the store and retired. Come to find out the guy had paid triple for the supply to be trucked in so people could have them. Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. That alone is enough to put them out of business. The Rock River Arms LAR-15 RRage 3G 5.56/.223 Rifle is a semi-auto rifle that delivers accurate shooting in a dependable platform with a clean, trim look. Maybe they should look to Beretta. There is NOTHING I need from a company that is obviously manipulating the system for themselves. To be fair- since Bill Rugers death, the company has done a complete 180. And the law mainly affecting small businesses, thats a feature, I think, not a bug. Ive never had an issue with CTD in a decade. After his passing, a new leadership took over the company with many positive results. F them. They seemed like a freedom loving company that supported the right for people to do what they had rights to do. I am not positive, but didnt Beretta get so pissed with Maryland that they moved everything, or is it still on going? Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Theyve come to the heart of flyover country because they know their anti-2A dogwont hunt back in Washington. Another dealer told me he wished Springfield well. Ive heard of them canceling orders. In the world of .308 Win. This product has an average rating of 4 stars out of 5 stars from 3 ratings. Meaning they are NOT a legal lobbyist. In fairness, Sprin gfield Arm ory isnt the only one to co-opt a name that it had no connection to (cough-Henry-cough). PERIOD. As an Illinois dealer, I will no longer stock, sell or support Rock River Arms or Springfield Armory products. RRA will wind up being an LE only shop. Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. I have talked to people in person in TN that were overjoyed at having Beretta move there. theyre NOT trapped in Illinois,they can relocate,same as other gun companies have done. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. CMMG .300 blackout will become my next purchase. Thats bad math and bad leadership. No lobbyist will take a position without their clients approval, because THE CLIENT PAYS THE LOBBYISTS SALARY. I wont name them, but the sales people at certain companies worked hard (and maybe even fudged some dates on paperwork) to make sure that I got my magazines before the deadline in the law hit. I have a Rock River PDS carbine. Ive spoken with a couple of bigger dealers in Illinois in the past 24 hours. Only Ruger has in the past few years regularly donated millions to the NRA. No sane company would move in to Illinois unless it was to curry political favor in Chicago as Boeing moving their HQ (no production) did. The company makes a wide variety of weapons, including AR-15 and M16 rifles, as well as pistols, shotguns, and bolt-action rifles. Fuck Ruger as well. As if they want to implode. If RRA didnt know about this and, as a sign of their disgust, drops their funding and membership in the trade group youd still hold them accountable? Well also work on the NRA to start taking a firmer stance against rogue anti-2A manufacturers, no matter how much advertising space they buy. Your arguments are supercilious and embarrassingly logic free. Thats how capitalism works. Except they are both under different ownership today. Nice deal on it until 4 July as well. Thanks a bunch pricks! Nothing Springfield will ever be in my collection now. The more concentrated the producers and sellers of firearms becomes the easier it will be to controlled and monitored. Yes, very disappointed. That is amazingly Its real easy for you people to bash a company when you dont own shit. (Im a 30 yr Vet). WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 I put 3.5k rounds through it before a malfunction. Rock River LAR-8 .308. Never, ever. Enjoy shooting it, and the second one if you buy one. I would say that Ruger has done more to support the 2A than all other companies combined. So many good options, why buy from jackasses. Rock River Arms had one seat. Until I see some evidence that they knew of and/or supported this I will not rush to blame RRA for what a trade industry group that they happen to fund did. Dont own a Springfield anything and now never will. Katrina gun confiscation showed us what any civil conflict will have as the belligerents, LEOs / Feds posing as LEOs giving you a hard choice.and a few Bundy-style standoffs. Do you rednecks and white trash go out of your way to get the their wrong every single time? Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins. My target is when my oldest daughter graduates from high school. Advertise their treachery. you cant fix prices or youll get a shortage. Most places, its still over $1500. They keep voting for F#$%ing Democrats. IMO, this last election postponed the literal civil war Ive been advocating for for over 10 years. thats what Illinois is hoping for stand our ground, Springfield got me right in my Grip Zone with this move, bu-bye SA. The company makes a wide variety of weapons, Your opinion and yourre entitled to it and welcome to voice it here, though it seems you prefer that others not voice theirs if they disagree with you. And rra. Perhaps a company thought they could pull a fast one and nobody would notice. Like a shrewd negotiator, Harmonhappily added a manufacturer and big box retailer carve-out to the bill so he couldcobble together the last few votes he needed to get it through the Senate. For a while there, post SAFE-ACT passage, it looked like 10-round (I know, right) mags were going to be outlawed. As the old adage goes, put up or shut up. Oh yes, the Senator behind the bill has many skeletons, http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/illinois-state-senator-don-harmon-law-firm-makes-millions-from-state-agencies-pension-funds-the-watchdogs-oak-park/. Hugely disappointing. Also check out the BM 59 kits and complete rifles out there. They are actively editing social media but refuse to address the issue. Every damn one of you bad asses crying I wont buy from them again would have done the same thing. How many model airplanes can I buy, sell or trade in one year? WebRock River Arms creates high quality rifles and pistols on the AR platform. 3/18/2013. Olympic Arms continued this legacy with its OA-93, OA-96 and OA-98 models. Colona, IL (May 2020) Rock River Arms, one of the industry leaders in AR-platform firearms, expands its line of defensive semi-autos with the introduction of the RRAGE 10.5-inch pistol. As I said on Thursday, when it comes to RRA I was, and still am, unsure if they had any foreknowledge of what was about to occur. I dont buy imported guns so SA & RRA are not going to loose any sales because of me. Pennsylvania checking in. You can not name another firearms manufacture today that has done more than Ruger to support the NRA, the 2A and firearms owners. I imagine that there will be a few FFLs leaving IL. Nothing unethical about this practice. What should be boycotted is this garbage blog. Oh yes, Illinois folks: start an ACTIVE campaign outing all the IL Representatives that voted for the bill. Even cosmetologists and lawyers. Were pulling out of IFMA and regret that this happened. After the event I hadnt seen a shipping notification. CTD is my last choice. What opinion? Hinterland #: 50977; MFG #: MT1800X; In stock. If you dont like their price dont buy. I think it was meant to be used with gloves on only. If IFMA had stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the NRA-ILA, the Illinois State Rifle Association, Guns Save Lifeand the National Shooting Sports Foundation working as a team to oppose this egregiousbill wed have had a good chance of depriving anti-gunners of a badly needed win. One dealer told me hes pulling Springfield product from his shelves to give his salespeople a break from carping customers. Simply offering ideas and encouragement. If RRA really didnt know about this, then their next steps should be to cancel their membership in IFMA, denounce the lobying they did, and maybe start looking to move. Well, not basically, they did. Who the hell made this business decision and have they been fired yet? Its not just selling, genius. The law doesnt get past the senate without Springfields cooperation. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). (This is in response to Mark). So, S and W are also dead to me. Rock River Arms RRAGE Carbine LAR-15 with ATN Day/Night scope. Ruger, S&W, Springfield, Rock River, Ive seen people complain about Glock and Colt, Hex Mag, and about a dozen more. Tell us more about your experience in running a business. Glock and S&W sell their guns to states like NY, NJ, HI that trample our 2A rights every day but I dont see you bashing them and Ill bet most of you own a Glock or a S&W. Have you not been following this story? I realy liked this ranger officer mogel all stainless nice looking gun. Springfield Armory *deserves* to be pitchforked and torched. This new model is the latest in the growing line of rifles and pistols based on the RRAGE platform. If you dont support Ruger you dont support American ideals. An XD and its in .40? RRA should be punished too. Helps to have the older experience but not insurmountable. I think sometimes its just because they are new to the hobby of guns. Im not buying a damn thing from Springfield and there is NO EXPIRATION DATE ON THAT. The company SHOULD be boycotted even if they shuffle management. Lots of work. Hence why, even with Democrats holding a super-majority in both our House and Senate, and a rabidly anti-gun Governor, we held the line even post-Newtown. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. There never was a Henry fi rearms company (until 2002). There is a story of a guy that got run out of business after a hurricane because he jacked his prices up for generators. RRA models, like the RRAGE, LAR15, BTB, ATH, LAR68 & Light Mountain, are available in many different color options and calibers. It might not have, but then again, if Senator Harmon didnt think it wouldnt have gotten himthat last vote or two he needed, he wouldnthave offered the deal. Couple of Butler Buildings, concrete pad to support machinery loading, movers and a power hookup. Somehow, I get the idea the House will be a cakewalk for any anti-gun bill compared to the Senate, which this one has already passed. The LAR-15 X-Series X-1 Rifle in .223/5.56mm from Rock River Arms is available at a manufacturer suggested retail price of $1,450.00 and $1,500.00, depending on the stock and color option (Black and Tan). Does anyone really buy RRAs BS, We didnt know? Regardless of who did what,the after-effects of this deal and a legislative loss will be felt far beyond Illinois for some time to come. My SA 1911 Loaded Target has been my favorite pistol since I bought it last year. So how is screwing your customer base over a sound business strategy? S&W was sold for 12% of its former value. Either dont have any or I overpay to have the stock and have it at a price that everyone individual doesnt want to buy the whole lot at once. If for no other reason than as a cautionary tale to other would be future sell outs. Such a thing exists. I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. That will never happen now. The lobbyists sometimes seriously overestimate how happy something will make a member or simply dont have the time to keep the membership completely up to date with minute-by-minute updates on how wrangling over a bill is proceeding. And gun control wins, like this keep the gravy train flowing so they can continue to draw a paycheck and keep on going. Didnt you read this article? Illinois gun owners should pack up and move across the Mississippi to Missouri. Smith and Wessons deal with the Klinton regime also brought us the infamous and deplorable hillary hole internal lock. I was going to buy the Saint, seemed like a.nice rifle, now.they can piss up a rope. Who Makes Rock River Arms? Ruget supported the ban on high capacity (ie standard capacity) mags as it favored their line of sporting rifles like the mini-14. Lobbying groups run on a lot of assumptions and they dont take a vote from membership every time a change is made to a bill that they think concerns their members. So thats a reason for ignoring the fact that Ruger basically wrote the assault weapons ban? I considered buying an XDs when I was looking for a conceal carry, glad I bought something else. Search Ruger anti gun. Ruger today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. if you run a company and you dont know whats going on this is what you deserve. I say boycott both RRA and Sprinfield until they get sold off to someone who cares about gun owners. Dam I just bought a new ranger officer model.Had I know this earlier I would not have bought it. Two? Just keep in mind, if you have a dozen guns in your safe, I GUARANTEE you that at least one comes from a company whos compromised at some point. Its sad but it happens. Larson first said Rock River Arms had broken ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturing Association which is only a four member board. My sprinters were not seeing much action lately. Make it a campaign issue NOW. So an opportunity to block others selling in Illinois seemed like a quick and dirty way to make a few more bucks. Its called doing business. There are more corrupt justices out their than honest ones. Granted, the company isnt run by a Henry these days but I thought the paper trail of ownership was fairly clear and unbroken. We there the courts kill the law or the governor vetoes it, nothing changes the sellout by Springfield. Hes totally grasping at straws on that point in his video. Major mistake, Springfield. Not a nice odor. No guilt trip on my hip. Thats not fighting to protect gun owners. This just proves that point. As a long-time, dedicated anti-gunner, this wasnt Senator Harmons first legislative rodeo. 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