You need to provide at least cursory information about your situation if you want help. quick and dirty: hudavendigar, constantinople, kocaeli (? with Castille/Aragon/England or smth. Try to break up their alliances. After finishing up Sicily and Morocco, you can cross the Strait of Gibraltar and siege Spain itself. . If there's any blob near him, they usually have him rivaled, allowing easy alliance. After that, make Paris a state and assign a Pasha to it in the corresponding maintenance screen. It's best to strike if they are already in a war. The intent is for you to play along and improve your skills and understanding of the game, and have fun all the while! This is typically when other great powers take their opportunity to declare war on the ottomans so they end up fighting 3 wars at once. It's expensive, and it hurts, but you can absolutely kill them that way. High debt and high war exhaustion means rebels which means even more trouble for them. Oh Hungary, you and your developed land filled with claims which just so, unfortunately, sit right next to me. Once youve successfully taken Samarkand, the one area you still need for the Caliphate is. Retake all of Transylvanias cores, including Maramaros, and take the provinces in the state of Alfld. They are Sunni with the Shafi'i school and have the unique Mamluk government. After all, it was my first time playing this game. I am playing as Venice , Ironman, Beta 1.13 . As long as you own at least one occupation, Tunis will never be able to annex Fezzan, allowing you to vassalize it instead and use their cores against Tunis later. So what i prefer to do is basically base race my opponent and take down any forts blocking my way to their capital. Ottomans tend to move a 50k stack alone , they move it without having some reinforcements nearby.So you can easily attack this 50k stack and maybe stack wipe it. While if they attack them with you not allied to said nation, it's that big country plus it's allies and then you can start a war with your allies against the Ottoman at the same time. Make the war goal something I can take and defend easily; the goal is not to defeat them utterly as they have ridiculous numbers to be able to siege them out completely at first. My troops always seem to suck and lose equal manpower battles, maybe I need to read up more on how it all works :'), Yeah no dlc yet but I'll keep that in mind for next game, thanks :). Siege down weak Tunis (and Ottos if you can), then make Ottos break treaties with all their powerful allies. The last thing he needs is for an opportunistic Austria + friends to form a coalition, even if it's inccurred making a DoW against Otto, and then have to deal with large stacks of rebels in the midst of two wars. Did you find this guide helpful, or did you run into trouble anywhere? Ally a powerful nation nearby, such as Great Britain or Scandinavia, and snake your way to Paris from a coastal province. It shouldn't be hard man .. Although its tricky to avoid, its possible to increase your chances to keep Fezzan alive long enough to let it fall into your sphere of influence. You can do this again and again, until they reach stab -3 (they will stab up though, if they can, but just keep going). Proceed to stomp the Ottomans, and get them to return all Byzantine cores. Really, it's all about planning your idea groups to maximize the quality of your army. Works better if you have a fleet to block the straight, e.g. Although you can speed up conquest by using diplomatic entanglements, wars with the Mamluks will mostly be you chipping away at them over time. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLt9GyYZn0y3vuzouyDCpMrYXebe4nUyOz PATREON https://www.patreon.com/chewyshoot REDDIT https://www.reddit.com/r/chewyshoot/ NEW MERCH https://chewyshoot.creator-spring.com/ Check out the VOD channel to catch streams after the fact https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNhobr_D_kg9pV8jQbfAolA#EU4Guide #EU4Ottoman #EU4Ottomans My Mod Pack https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1868840012Consider rating the pack if you enjoy it so others can find it easier in the workshop!__ Join the community Discord server https://discord.gg/RWUbeJZ Keep up to date on the channel via Twitter https://twitter.com/Chewyshoot Subscribe if you haven't already so you can keep up to date with the channel, and ding the bell to get notifications when we upload!__Check out EU4 at the Paradox website https://www.paradoxplaza.com/europa-universalis-iv/EUEU04GSK-MASTER.htmor on Steam https://store.steampowered.com/app/236850/Europa_Universalis_IV/__Videos and associated commentary are intended to be transformative in nature and thus fall under the \"Fair Use\" laws of video use.This video may contain some audio from the \"Themes of the Old World\" mod on the Steam Workshop for Europa Universalis IV, with the audio created, and licensed to Chewyshoot, by Utopia.Find and support them on Spotify: https://sptfy.com/utopia When youre annexing a vassal, see if you can concentrate land. Then you declare war on Byzantium a few years after 1444 and pray the Ottomans do so too after you. The only exception to this rule would be Russia and ONLY Russia, but that's cause of just the massive amount of troops they can put out, especially with quantity, allowing them to easily overrun the Ottomans in a war, though at a massive cost. Going to war with them when they are in another big-ish war on another front helps a lot. Over the years, hes developed a similar passion for writing, which he mostly gains during his studies. Prevent their room for expansion, cut them off so rebels can take hold or other nations can try to expand, and declare war whenever the truce timer is up. , that you get when youve conquered the southern coast of the Arabian Peninsula. Sometimes even the mighty Ottomans get in over their head. Getting the war goal and war score to go up, gives the chance for a good peace deal which makes them weaker and every following war with them easier. Aside from sealing off the Black Sea and connecting your territories, theres mostly no need for you to conquer anything north of the Caucasus mountains. It's kind of irrelevant though, because even though I have almost two times the total development of the Ottomans, they still have a much larger army and stronger allies. The mera can also gain land rights, but they have more important modifiers right now, such as the integration of nobility and stronger duchies. A mysterious list, a small Hungarian town, and unimaginable horror. This is especially true if the PLC and Russia blobs as they end up all hating each other. I'm thinking No CB on Byzantium on day 1 -> vassalization of Byzantium -> Get PLC as an ally -> return all Byzantine cores is the most viable option now since otherwise their endless manpower just annihilates anything in their path midgame. I can see the benefits both ways, but this is usually how I play it. Since you cant annex vassals during the war, use your moments of peace to start the process. Late game - wait until their troop strength falls below western strength. Then you peace out, take nothing and watch the rebels spawn. If you can't do that, at least guaranteeing them (if you're strong enough, of course) will keep the Ottos out for some years, wait for them to be on a long war, cancel the guarantee and attack after the truce. Then, take 100% worth of war score demands on top of those rebel enforcements, including annulling their treaties. The techs that give morale are HUGE (4, 15, 26, 30), and can give you a massive advantage in battle. Beats conquering, right? Itd give me a serious coalition I dont want to face yet. This part is for those players who are trying to complete the Unify Islam mission, in which you unite all corners of the vast Islamic world under a single Caliphate once more. All of this conquest you can do diplomatically, but dont be afraid to declare war if you want things to be a little quicker. all are full except expansion. When youre already allied, youre giving that country a diplomatic relationship slot anyhow. I've hit them several times as the PLC in my most recent games after the 1600s, they're not invincible no matter how many troops they have. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. The way EU IV is designed, if you want to play optimally then you should use the minimum sized stacks needed to siege provinces, split your navy in order to cycle them against strong naval opponents and generally minimise the losses due to attrition. The QQ exploded in my case and gave birth to an independent Kurdish state, Soran. This selection contains highly anticipated releases, sequels, ports and some f We're in the home stretch! Next, focus on supporting rebels and destabilizing them. Fortunately, this is a coastal province, so you wont have to expand deeply inward. Pick one difficult achievement from steam (preferably one that is owned by less than 1% of players) and start a campaign with that achievement as a goal. Take at least, More importantly, the land you had to take to unify the Caliphate should have made you a formidable power by now. I always take Quality + Innovative for that insane +20% Infantry Combat Ability policy. is a province you will need to retake the Caliphate. Prussian troops stackwipe Ottos easy in the 1600s. . A country Im supposed to take over is allied with a bigger and stronger country. Simply take some Spanish lands and repeat after the truce timer runs out. Video: Great Khan Achievement with Mongolia. If Byzantium was at war with the Ottomans, you now become the war leader and can call in all of your strong allies (e.g. The guide also assumes that players know the basics of the game, such as constructing buildings, managing armies and finances, and conquering new territory. Fortunately, theres a good chance these guys are allied. You basically become unstoppable if you avoid unfavourable offensive terrain battles. They just can't grow to the same extent if they don't have Constantinople. I'm the 3rd great power in the world and they're the 1st. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This has a simple reason: Spain. They still haven't taken out mamluks. They dont grant permanent claims, so only do them when youre ready to attack Hungary once more. From 1500 onwards, its time to fight anything, anywhere, all the time. Try to disconnect their capital from asia. . Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Just getting all of the arriving divisions to the front by rail is enough, not to mention everything else. My ally kept Otto busy while I destroyed their navy, and I took forced Tunis/Crete to accept peace by taking their providence and blockading them. Ottomans should get . After Military Tech 16 (I believe?) The Mamluks sit on the main trade nodes directing trade from India and China to Europe. After that it can become too costly and dangerous to challenge them, up until 1750, when the game triggers them to decay. While you prepare for a war with Tunis, consolidate your holdings. Techs that give tactics are also a nice advantage, but not as big of an advantage as morale. In around 225 hours of EU4 I have not once beaten the Ottomans, mind you. You can take small coastal ports when you peace out their allies to gain an early foothold. Who do the Ottomans have as rivals? If you annex them, you can no longer get the -10% Aggressive Expansion bonus. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The Ottomans tend to be hard to beat around the mid game, when they build up their Jannisaries (sp?) As others have mentioned, you can beat quantity with quality. How else am I supposed to stop them if I can't use military force? So, feel free to jump around in this guide to have it suit your campaign. With both of them weakening, I swooped in and strengthened my position in the Balkan. I just said in a different forum two days ago that WitE would be a much better game if Paradox had designed the UI. That and Quality should give you some pretty good troops. I strongly recommend keeping Oman around as a vassal for the time being theres a good chance theyll be the last nation to host the Hanbali school of thought. Alternatively, you may be able to ally with Russia. The best way to beat this navy is to snipe their fleets which they like to spread out since Mare Nostrum. By now, the Ottomans are a powerhouse that dominates the Middle East and the Eastern Mediterranean. Particularly as Poland/Commonwealth, which has a nice set of military national ideas. Here is a selection of ten games releasing in March 2023 that we think you should be looking out for. How good is your economy? Get them to a high war exhaustion and then white peace them. Use them to take a lot of land for cheap, and use Russia to distract the Timurids in the north. Thing is, I don't think there is an easy fix to this because, as I said, optimal play happenes as a consequence of how the game is designed. You can easily take down some enemy stacks trying to avoid your blob army for some additional WE. No you're not. As many as you can. I encountered some issues in my own run that couldve jeopardized the progress of this guide. This war can be tricky since Hungary could have a high discipline. I took most of the Levant, snaked my way to Medina, got some more land in the Nile Delta, and cleaned up my African borders. Retake all of Transylvanias cores, including Maramaros, and take the provinces in the state of Alfld. To repeat some more basic info (so you wont have to hop pages all the time), this EU4 Ottomans guide was written for patch 1.33.3 with all DLCs installed. I'd suggest playing more aggressive in your conquests, or try to botch them early on because that always works best. After you declare war on Morocco, focus on landing an army on Sicily and taking down the Spanish and Moroccan holdings in Africa. Look around Ottoman. The goal is that even when they move their capital into anatolia, they will not have direct land connections to their overseas provinces (hello 75% autonomy), and they won't be able to move across the strait over land without getting mil access from you. Who are your allies? Look around Ottoman. If you want to spice up lategame i recommend some RP. Time to make some new friends, I guess. You can also take some cash from these extremely wealthy merchant republics. Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! to give yourself an edge. Integrate the vassal after theyve cored all of Sudan for you since hanging on to Ethiopia will be trouble for them. Find the first and second installments of this guide here: Since this Ottomans EU4 guide is so RNG-heavy, youll likely be running into situations that dont play out as planned. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. When dealing with a large nation, core conquest is a very viable tactic. Didn't require too much manpower to take them out. Take Crimea. You can now complete the missionsControl the DanubeandConquer Transsylvania, but dont complete them just yet. Whereas we matched the historical Ottoman sultans in previous episodes, well one-up them in this one! Build up your naval forces if you are uncertain of your navys ability, take. If your army has at least 20 Janissary regiments or over 20% of the army is Janissaries, and your stability is negative, you may be facing theJanissary Coupdisaster which hurts your technological advancements tremendously. Meanwhile, you shouldve gotten Sicily sieged down by now. , but dont complete them just yet. I believe I read one time that war exhaustion goes down in relation to your demands, so you if demand nothing then you hope their country explodes in rebels. Also always have a military advisor, either a 5% discipline one or a +10% morale one. You can trap their navies and force them out to reduce their naval strength, but thats completely optional. The QQ exploded in my case and gave birth to an independent Kurdish state, Soran. I also connected my Crimean holdings to the mainland, so I can defend it more easily. Late game their units really fall off and while they are numerous, they're squishy. Europa Universalis 4 (EU4) Guide: Ottomans Made Easy - Late Game We're in the home stretch! Another front for you to not worry about! I'm not sure how much warscore triggers the call for peace, but I'd stay below 50% if you can. The Serbians, Bulgarians and Greeks can easily be swayed to revolt if you let the Ottomans drown in war exhaustion, keep them occupied, wait for the rebels to rise up, then sign a peace and let them deal with the problem. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Hungary, Austria, Poland) for free. Save up some of the power to reverse the stability effects and war exhaustion and just keep hitting them. All rights reserved. Total is plus 83%. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Europa Universalis IV by Paradox Development Studio. Make sure you are stable both in terms of unrest and economy and move your armies to Morocco. I just needed to buy enough time to take Tunis/Crete out of the equation. However, you might have other priorities, and Tunis gains wiggle room. I allied Lithuania and attacked Ottoman Empire that was allied with Tunis and Crete. Its also important to consolidate your holdings at home. If you annex them, you can no longer get the -10% Aggressive Expansion bonus. Aside from forcing the Russians to take a long way around, your imperial heart will be safe, which works miracles for your prosperity. With my aggressive expansion pretty high in Europe, its time we shift away. I have a good navy and army but I definitely can't beat them alone. In case this is where you enter the series, first of all welcome! What (military) ideas do you have? If you don't have all the DLCs, make sure to at least get the Cradle of Civilization DLC. Even if you don't plan to attack them, using this tatic will slow their development as you keep them from taking Constantinople (or Byzantium, or Istanbul, if you will). Perhaps it's worth breaking truce with them as well. If Warscore is left make them pay war reperations (remember that you also get 10% from every loan they take, so rebuilding is a bit harder for them) and release countries. Ifni is a very poor province, so it doesnt cost much to take. The country is mountainous and can be tricky to conquer or divert resources to, especially if you need them against Spain. Always check whether someone is willingly letting itself be annexed by you. Is there actually a way to check to see if Janissary Decadence is fired, or do I just have to declare on them and see who gets stackwiped? I wanted to do this without wasting my manpower so I can finish off England, France and Poland right after. I used to wait until late game to roflstomp them with my Vodka-fueled endless spacemarines but this is no longer an option, since on very hard they blob endlessly and since we share a border in Crimea, war will come. Focus on taking away their economic base. when you reach tech 19 units, they wont stand a chance, Usually what I do if I know I need to eventually fight the Ottomans (for an achievement). After you dealt with the Mamluks, youre the only Great Power left in Arabia. Like for example, if you get quality, economic, and offensive finished, that's +15% discipline. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. For more information, please see our We need at least one province deep Persian territory Samarkand. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. The Ottomans have both quality and quantity, which is what makes them so scary. Thats right Europe seemed to have forgotten what weve been doing to the other states, so its time for a friendly reminder. Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! As any war would just be you and them vs the Ottoman. Occupy all provinces except one. This EU4 Ottomans Guide is currently for patch 1.33.3 and with all DLCs installed. How do I win a war against them? If your army has at least 20 Janissary regiments or over 20% of the army is Janissaries, and your stability is negative, you may be facing the. They guarantee the independence of Medina and Cyprus while Hejaz and Fadl are their vassals. Edit: and why is my force limit only 73k when theirs is 175k :(. Now observe the situation. This area is very wealthy and contains the Islamic Holy cities of Mekka and Medina. Thats right Europe seemed to have forgotten what weve been doing to the other states, so its time for a friendly reminder. I strongly recommend keeping Oman around as a vassal for the time being theres a good chance theyll be the last nation to host the Hanbali school of thought. I was just bribed to stop being corrupt. needs you to core Rome, Moscow, and Istanbul. Moreover, we need a Moroccan province, Ifni. If you call Tunis into wars but dont give them any of the lands they may want, theyll always have a truce with Fezzan, but never get to annex it. What military ideas do they have? Sadly its very hard because not only do they have quantity, i believe its +33% land force from ideas. Genoa and Venice still hold on to some of our rightful territories. Remember to enact the fortification edict on all provinces containing a fort, especially in your capital. Siege down the fort in Malaga before swarming over the Spanish mainland. Move your army in position and declare war to retake a Transylvanian core like Hunyad. Then declare (3-4 months later) and invade the opposite front. Premiered Nov 19, 2020 1.3K Dislike Share Save Zlewikk TV 98K subscribers EU4 has already 16 expansions in their library. Valve Corporation. What do I do? Naval superiority would be a good idea if you can get it against the Ottos, to try and prevent the bosphorus and dardanelles crossing. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. This campaign in EU4 is designed around a slower playstyle by myself, Chewy, and doing my best to exp. In the previous part, we covered the remainder of the Age of Discovery and built the Ottomans from a major power to a powerhouse. Privacy Policy. From your base in Morocco and Spain, it shouldnt be hard for you to break your alliance with France and declare war on them. Best time to hit them is in the first 50 years of the game, and the last 100 years of the game. Anyone who dislikes Spain is your friend, in this case. You need to win those navy encounters fast. Eventually, they won't be able to sustain these wars as efficiently from the constant lack of manpower and they'll be taking loans for merc armies. I can understand the complaints about micro-managing, and it's especially true if you're colonial, but that's a consequence of choice in some sense. You can try and hunt down some Ottomans-unique achievements as well. Play Burgundy for example and it's all going to be right there in one region. Quite manageable. To repeat some more basic info (so you wont have to hop pages all the time), this, We interrupt this guide for a brief section on damage control, From 1500 onwards, its time to fight anything, anywhere, all the time. All of this conquest you can do diplomatically, but dont be afraid to declare war if you want things to be a little quicker. The Ottoman army is pretty bad (compared to Europeans) after mil tech 15. You can do so by going to the diplomatic interaction screen, selecting diplomatic feedback and toggling join offensive wars off. Fezzan may be allied to the Mamluks. Ally (a couple) big nation(s) to make them not want to attack me to give me time to prepare. In this area, you may want to expand recklessly to the point that it nearly breaks your nation. By outsmarting Hungary, the Mamluks, and Venice, we became the undisputed ruler of the Balkans, the Eastern Mediterranean, and the Levant. Ottomans also tend not to upgrade forts so it's relatively quick sieging. The Ottomans are at such a crossroads of trade routes that good trade can make them very very wealthy. Proceed to stomp the Ottomans, and get them to return all Byzantine cores. If they have a weaker ally (Tunis is often good for this), DOW on them; this will drag Ottos in, but without the benefit of their powerful allies. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Meanwhile, declare war on the Mamluks to take Palestine, Transjordan, and start expanding into Arabia. The next time they declare war on them, I will also declare war. Is there a way to actually defeat the Ottomans? Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. By doing so, youll deny the Russians a strategically useful area of operations, and protect your core land. It may not display this or other websites correctly. their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. With a strong navy you can win half the war (or more accurately, 25%, because that's what you'll get for fully blockading them). Don't let them. You can run up their war exhaustion very easily.
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