The excess mortality, especially through motor vehicle accidents, suicide, homicide, and accidental poisonings, occurred mainly in the first 5 years after discharge from active duty and involved. We returned home to an uncertain future with no skills needed in the civilian world, we would make our way the best we could in this Lets all prove the stats wrong. Thats 390 per day. tell everyone that was their to go & get a blood test to check for agent orange 1st comes diabetes then prostate cancer thats what a dr told me yesterday. or the Central Highlands and operations in between. The figure that floats around alot and that Vet Centers sometimes mention is about 111,ooo from 1973 to 1997. On June 7, 1969, Bullock was killed by small arms fire while on night watch at An Hoa combat base. During that same Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to "You didn't have to go fighting.". If you fought in Vietnam you were watching your . "Of the 2,709,918 Americans who served in Vietnam, less than 850,000 are estimated to be alive today, with the youngest American Vietnam veteran's age approximated to be 54 years old." Some pilots, career men and members of elite units may have been much older. The obituarities almostevery day in our area list someone who served in Vietnam. ps (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. As a mental health nurse in the 1970s who worked the suicide prevention and crisis unit for 4 years, I can tell you there were alot. Any anecdotal evidence that has come my way over the years is not from books. Did not know his name but I couldnt bring myself to walk by his A/O after this happened. i was in a compound & seen them spraying and the next day everywhere they sprayed was brown. As a combat veteran of Marine Corps having served in Vietnam, I have always known that we seem to have a mortality clock that ticks a bit faster than then that of the standard for insurance actuaries. The last Vietnam Vet will die in 2047. i forgot to mention in my above comment,that i was in the first infantry division,(the big red one),charlie company,2nd battalion,16th infantry regiment,rangers,in vietnam. 2017 Report on Race and Ethnicity 624,000 during World War II and throughout the Korean Conflict 1,475,000 Vietnam Era 6,651,000 0 2 4 6 8 10 2017 2022 2027 2032 2037 Millions World War Two Conflict in Korea Vietnam Era Gulf War Era. 101st Airborne 1971 Return to country Jun 1969-Apr 1970 I Field Forces Vietnam. Rather than being greeted with anger and hostility, however, most Vietnam veterans received very little reaction when they returned home. Ach, the memories. served in-country . He and I flew out of Da Nang on the morning of Jan 1, 1968 (that night Da Nang A.B. didn't know who they were fighting and dying for. Base, then to NY. Born: 08/27/1943. James Ward was one of at least 18 juvenile soldiers killed at Vietnamfive were 16, like him, 11 others were 17, and one was 15 and had forged his birth certificate to join. I feel confident they will take care of you now. I heard a pop and at that time guys used to mess with pin flairs so when I was awaken by a popping sound I thought it was a pin flair going off. For a decade, as one person was shipped off to fight, another was returning. Went looking for a new job,on foot walking many miles every day,but when they foung out that i was a vietnam veteran they would not hire me.Some would ask if I was a Drug addict 0r killed people etc. But for the time being, we will just all hang together here and beat the odds. CIB air medalan dall that. looking around. for years, all I asked for was a good nights sleep. The VA rejected 80 percent of the requests, but decisions often appeared to be haphazard or contradictory, depending on what desks they landed on, the AP found. No more mr. Nice Guy. Ive been trying for 17 years now. I am asking for a Decision Review Officer Hearing. There is a certaincourage and loyalty that transends the injustice rendered to these men and as long as America has men like this it will always be free. Most Vietnam Veterans are in their 60s and the average lifespan for a male in USA is 74. In war, there are no unwounded soldiers So the last 14 years we are dying too fast, only the few will survive by Cheers. Everything else is pure bullshit..1969-1970 GRUNT 11 bravo in the jungle..and damn PROUD of itSCREW ALL THE FAKERSNO MAN ENOUGH TO BE TRUE. It was after returning to the U.S. and while en route to the hospital that Wowwk first encountered hostility as a veteran. Jorge Otero Barreto. There does seem to be some amorphous time clock inside the Vietnam Veteran. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? His name is Ray Alvarado and you can Google his name or USS Rhona and read a wild story. Combat Medic Names were called, Vets were spit on, along with not being respected by our own did happen. Twice a week we compile our most fascinating features and deliver them straight to you. One tactic employed was the use of booby traps, and to this day, there are several tunnels and ambushes that have been preserved. No way of accounting for the incidence of this from 1972-85. How long did a soldier have to serve in Vietnam? They cannot deny your ISD. and not one guy in my group had ever said that they were spit upon!! I guess its a compliment to us allthat all these wannabees are prentnding to be vets but I still get pizzed at them when I figure them out after a few beers in a bar or whatever. Thus, a follow-up mo. Last name: Mike 520-360-6933. when i arrived at my unit, 2/11th acr, how battery, a scruffy looking latino guy who happened to be back in the rear, convinced me, i needed to volunteer to go out to e-troop, in his stead, (hed already been out there 6 mo. thanks rich. I may have some choice words to express as well. Today the list still grows in our local newspaper, How to find out who sent anonymous flowers? As for the CAR, that might be another story. Born: 01/29/1945. I just got my crystal ball back from the shop. Nice to be reminded of our true niche in historythank God, not the Hollywood one! and welcome home to all my brothers. You posted this on September 2nd. Tragically, though, many veterans have since died waiting for their approval and related benefits. Very good but alarming article. Punchbowl National Cemetery of the Pacific is called. I found out he was on the plane behind me after roll call satin the rain and mud We are not dying off that fast. I have a few observations, but I will let you all go first. It was Bob Kerrey. Just a note of trivia. How many Flowers do you need for each level in June's journey? Just realized that this is the day Ho Chi Minh died! In the United States 17-year-olds may join the armed forces with the written agreement of parents. You couldnt believe that people were cheering you.. These are indeed some very sobering statistics. Known as the Sky Soldiers, the 173rd Airborne Brigade is an airborne infantry brigade combat team (IBCT) of the United States Army that is stationed in Vicenza, Italy. Patsy T. Mink, (U.S. House of Rep-Hawaii) get honored with a burial in Punchbowl. And yet our government which is one of the best in the world scares the crap out of me. just to crunch no. Yes the war was not popular but we did go and do our duties we were trained to do. i just learned, they are going to give me 40% for a couple things. Northport VA Medical Center spokesman Christopher Goodman confirmed the New York facility collected the samples and sent them to the lab. But he remains angry that other veterans' last days are consumed by fighting the same government they went to war for as young men. Two of my long-time friends are in-country veterans. If true, 390 VN vets die a day. and were sometimes in more combat during their tour than the actual grunts they supported they still werent awarded the CIB. Glamunyon@aol.com. have served in-country was: 9,492,958. Median age is 68 years. Just finished writing a book about an incident in Vietnam that tells a story about how twisted and asymmetric that war was. Thanks for your added comment I was in Artillery had my hands on a lot of weapons from the 105, 155, 175mm guns up to the 8inch Howitzer, and all the other weapons in between. Lincoln, Nebraska is where I call home. society. Ant help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Jim, that was very thorough. None of that, he says, prepared me for the reception at home upon our return.. Before you visit your local recruiter, be sure you meet the minimum qualifications for serving in the U.S. Armed Forces. Looking for people who served in the 134th assault helicopter co. from 1971 to 1972. The USS Rhona was blown up with a German missile. My room mate was nick named Budda in the 134th. My girl friend thought I lost it. Its mostly the exact opposite. I came back from nam in January of 70.Got out September remember being called a baby killer,monster etc ,was not spit on ,but had I been would have given back a proper response.When I came back was wearing my medals and CIB etc. He would not comment on the findings, but said everyone who tested positive was notified. Well, one thing to remember is that not all Vietnam veterans were born in 1945 or later. Deeds need to be done in addition to words, says Wowwk, who is 100 percent disabled from his Vietnam wounds. However, the unit is most well-known for its exploits during the Vietnam War, which took place between 1955 and 1975. Age: 75. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among Vietnam War veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. . jeff clutter. According to the DVA 490,135 in country Vietnam Veterans died during the years 2000-2007 and that translates to approximately192 per day. No way of accounting for one car accidents either. I am a Marine Vietnam Vet (6/67-7/68) & a MarineDesert Shield/Storm Vet. Twenty-one-year-old Steven A. Wowwk arrived as an infantryman in the Armys First Cavalry Division in Cam Ranh Bay, Vietnam in early January 1969 to fight in an escalating and increasingly unwinnable war. educated man, besidesrocknroll there is Classical Music, Jazz and other favorites The collective emotion of the country was divided, says Jerry Lembke, a Vietnam veteran, sociologist and author of The Spitting Image: Myth, Memory, and the Legacy of Vietnam. It can take decades for symptoms to appear. (Reuters Health) - Higher than average death rates among VietnamWar veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) suggest that combat trauma may still be affecting veterans' health even decades after the war, according to a new study. I have been reading the Veteran for 20 years and it has always scared the crap out of me. The AO stuff is just so hard to tolerate as it still invades so many of us. 1969 most of the unit were draftees, with a few old hands returning for a Some, like Wowwk, say they had invectives hurled their way; others, like naval officer Ford Cole, remember being spit on. Mike why is gods name would all these people claim to have went to that septic tank they call vietnam? Mike: Thanks for the unexpected note. More over 8 million people served their country in some capacity during the Vietnam War, and those veterans who are still alive now are often in their 60s and 70s. As of the last Census taken during August, 2000, the surviving U.S. lucky to be a Vietnam veteran alive.. in only 6 years.. I am unable to find the museum websites referred to, though I find a National War Museum and a Veterans Memorial Museum. It stopped short of urging them to get ultrasounds or other tests, saying there was currently no evidence the vets had higher infection rates than the general population. Why are Vietnam vets dying so fast? Last name: Nice Web. Before I married my loving wife, I told her of some of my experiences, but not all of them showed her all themedicine Before the lottery was implemented in the latter part of the Vietnam conflict, there was no system in place to determine order of call besides the fact that men between the ages of 18 and 26 were vulnerable to being drafted. More answers below James Cain He wishes the VA would do more to raise awareness about liver flukes and to encourage Vietnam veterans to get an ultrasound that can detect inflammation. http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=63544, MY MINISTRY: http://web.mac.com/rthorne2/Site/TRUTH_REVEALED_MINISTRY.html, De Nomie, William D. Sgt. Vietnam was a lost war, and it was the first major lost war abroad in American history, Lembcke says. Vietnam Veterans of America/ Vietnam Veterans Die Early/ Epidemiology for Vietnam Veterans/ Agent Orange Deaths, http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/c2kbr-22.pdf, http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=63544, http://web.mac.com/rthorne2/Site/TRUTH_REVEALED_MINISTRY.html, Transcendental Meditation Retreat At Picture Rocks Retreat House, Veterans Across America Black Out Walmart Black Thursday. Mike Baughman holds a 1971 photo of himself in his U.S. Army uniform at his home in Danville, California on Aug. 2, 2016. Jun. See for yourself in 2000 there were 2.7 million Vietnam Veterans alive: http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/c2kbr-22.pdf Be safe and well Welcome Home In my military career, I personaly wrote CIB support letters for over 20 non-11B soldiers whom I knew had spent more than 180 days in a forward deployed posture and were under combat conditions, 6 receiving purple hearts none received the CIB. And before we ate our food they came from the beach and were to be sprayed along with everything else that the VA is making this presumption for having boots on the ground for even one minute. I took her to Punchbowl and then she understood. HISTORY reviews and updates its content regularly to ensure it is complete and accurate. They mainly noticed that people seemed uncomfortable around them and did not appear interested in hearing about their wartime experiences.. It would take nearly 20 years after the end of the war for America to get right with its Vietnam veterans. What is a combat vet? Nearly three out of four of those cases were also denied, even though the government posted a warning on its website this year saying veterans who ate raw or undercooked freshwater fish while in Vietnam might be at risk. Jim and I flew from Da Nang, to Kadena Okinawa, and then after an attempt to fly out of Kadena in a Flying Tiger Line plane one of the 4 engines quit in mid-air, and we made an emergency landing back at Kadena, we stayed overnight and flew out in the same repaired airplane on to Travis A.F. At this rate there will be only a few of us alive in 2015. where did this nunber come from, the people I am dealing with look closely at source material and I would really like to use this. i think anyone that went to vietnam should go to a va hospital & get checked out. I was wondering about these statistics. He now gets about $3,100 a month and says he's relieved to know his wife will continue to receive benefits after he dies. Criteria for Eligibility The Vietnamese did not take the invasion very well and did all in their might to protect themselves against the advancing American forces. Can you put dead flowers in food waste bin? Like our Vietnam Brothers, who followed a decade after us, there is a bond that can never be broken between us. Jerry Engel/New York Post Archives/NYP Holdings, Inc./Getty Images, The society really was ill-prepared to give these guys what they deserved, says Christian Appy, professor of History at the University of Massachusetts Amherst and author of three books on Vietnam. As we approach March 29 and this Vietnam Veterans Day, take the time to remember those who honorably served. How old did you have to be to be drafted in Vietnam? I am unable to find the museums referred to, though I find a National Vietnam War Museum and a Veterans Memorial Museum. Of the 50 blood samples submitted, more than 20 percent came back positive or bordering positive for liver fluke antibodies, said Sung-Tae Hong, the tropical medicine specialist who carried out the tests at Seoul National University in South Korea. Thank you. (Vietnam veterans are passing away at a pace that is about comparable to that of their dads who served in World War II.) We had it nice compared to the line Medics. "But until further research, a recommendation cannot be made either way.". God bless you guys for your sacrifice. Do you mean more information on the claim process? Im 66 years old, going in to the hospital for the 4th time for more stents. Im a member of the Vietnam Veterans of American. got rocketed big time because it was the start of the TET offensive. ) The Iraqui and Afghan war vets are getting PTSD Tx. Thanks for your attention to this subject. It is anticipated that the overall number of veterans would fall from 20.0 million in the year 2017 to 13.6 million in the year 2037. December 27, 2018 (aged 112 years, 230 days) Austin, Texas, U.S. Oliver Stone. First encountered hostility as a Veteran websites referred to, though i find a Vietnam. 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