Im not sure where you come across thinking we are some sort of shill for the grading companies. 02-24-2005, 02:58 AM #7. jay2984. Tafts gut feeling is that the counterfeits are being produced in Pennsylvania or New Jersey. Visit Website. Most of the TSA stuff i see on eBay is more modern such as this Jordan card below: I don't have a ton of experience with USA, as they went under sometime around 2002-2003 I believe. Mike Baker was a former grader at PSA and the head of grading at GAI. Graded a trimmed card a gem mint 10, GEM is a scam, they are well known to only grade counterfeit and altered cards, Damn, Im ok with it being the wrong grade but hopefully its not a fake. Prior to this, individual dealers set their own standards. Mundial Football Soccer #10 Pele RC Rookie Black PSA 2.5, 2017 National Treasures PATRICK MAHOMES 12/99 Rookie Patch Auto Chiefs Signed, 2017 Contenders Optic Patrick Mahomes II Rookie Ticket Auto BGS 9.5 Gem Mint 10, 2020 Panini Contenders Rookie Ticket #101 Joe Burrow Auto RC Mint PSA 9 10 Auto, 2017 Contenders Optic Patrick Mahomes II ROY Rookie Auto RC #16/25 PSA 8 10, 2021 Panini Contenders Optic Trevor Lawrence ROY GOLD /3 RC AUTO Jaguars , 2021 Select Mac Jones Rookie Swatches Black Prizm 1/1 NFL Shield RC SSP #RSW-MJO, Patrick Mahomes Purple Crystal /75 Prizm Rookie Auto Chiefs , 2017 Panini Prizm Green Scope Patrick Mahomes RC Auto /99 BGS 9.5/10 GEM MINT, 2020 Panini Flawless Rookie Gems Signatures Jalen Hurts RC RUBY AUTO 4/20 Eagles, 1998 Playoff Contenders Ticket AUTO Randy Moss Rookie /300 #92 BGS 7.5 8, 2020 Panini One Precision Rookie Patch Autographs #301 Joe Burrow 15/35, 2020 Contenders Rookie Auto RPA /100 JOE BURROW Card #RTS JBU Bengals RC Mint, Trevor Lawrence 2021 Panini Donruss Optic The Rookies Ice RC - 14/15 GEM MINT. Free Postage. The jtgcards seller has been very active lately with Gem Grading cards. PSA 10 Gem Mint Rayquaza Full Art CSR VMAX Climax Japanese Pokemon Card 252/184. Hager started out by grading out his own collection and quite favorably, often vastly over grading cards, while also grading cards that had been altered significantly. And in the listings, the eBay sellers always put some wording so they dont have any responsibility. The Chop Shop Grading Companies. The GMA grading label looks like it was printed on regular low quality paper. *Pop 1* BGS 10 Joe Burrow Kaboom Rookie Card K-JB2 Absolute Football, 2017 Panini Select Patrick Mahomes Field Level Rookie SP Gem Mint PSA 10 RC #247, 2020 National Treasures Midnight Joe Burrow RPA /20 PSA 9 Auto 10 Rookie Patch, 2000 Bowman Football #236 Tom Brady Rookie Card RC Perfectly Centered! You cant rely on the grades and no one is going to pay more for it. Big scam going around with grading, just because Beckett is an honest grader as well as PSA and the greedy people all want GEM mint 10 grades on cards that are off center or chipped. You might just find the look and emotional appeal you wanted at a price you can afford. Gem graded cards are equal to the value of a raw card. The old saying, "If you don't know your gems, know your gemologist," applies here. This leaves the larger stones on top, demanding the most attention. Pay particular attention to windowing, a condition where light passes straight through the gem's center rather than reflecting back to the viewer. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. Who cares about the grades when it is likely trimmed? was that a good decision? Most of these cards, when auctioned on eBay, included scans of mediocre-to-poor quality, making authentication a bit tougher in some circumstances. The company provides a much-needed service in the card collecting world with the goal of changing the way security is done in the industry. These will command special attention and pricing due to their rarity. 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All Vintage Cards content is free. At a minimum, assume the card has been over graded or potentially trimmed. PSA 3 VG, 1909-11 T206 PIEDMONT 350 CHRISTY MATHEWSON HOF DARK CAP PSA 3, 1909-11 T206 Walter Johnson Portrait PSA 1 Poor. The other factors (clarity, cut, and carat) will determine the gem's value. That doesn't even look like a real company. However, "Rose de France" amethysts, with light, pinkish violet colors have become very popular gems. For the sake of adding info it's worth pointing out that GEM is/was notorious for slabbing counterfeits. On note on GAI; make sure if buying a card in on of their slabs--lean towards the silver flips and avoid the newer/whiter flip. The higher the diamond is on the color scale, the more valuable . Choosing the right gem size is a personal matter. Note that Sport's Collector's Digest sold a bunch of its equipment to another company that launched as Sports Card Direct although with a label that looked quite similar, albeit with a blue label. Possible Jordan RC?? "We pledged $2 million in scholarship funding for students in the arts and creative fields at historically Black colleges and universities (HBCUs) through 2024," Bellai reports. In addition, VCBC editor Alan Purdy Jr. said in observance of a number graded card that even 'Helen Keller could have spotted that it was trimmed'. CURRENT BID 0.00 USD + applicable fees & taxes. The same principle applies to the other grading factors, too. Pokemon Card Eevee & Snorlax GX TAG TEAM PROMO SM169 PSA 9 Mint Eng Black Star. Heres willie mays Topps 1954. The company has 1 contact on record. Houston, TX. Just how far off will affect the gem's brilliance. 7. Pokemon Dark Phantasma Snorlax 077 CHR Card Japanese ACE Grading Gem Mint 10. The highest diamond color grade is colorless. Honestly, they are not a reputable company. When comparing similar stones, judge the overall light return. I cannot find any information on that company or to whether their gradings were ligit. Question about Gem Grading Inc. : r/baseballcards. The Registered Agent on file for this company is .Resigned. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. We use cookies to analyze website traffic and optimize your website experience. They put out a great catalog for their business! With only one exception (cut), gem grades won't indicate which gem better suits your needs. There is a 100% chance that that card is either trimmed or fake. Check Availability Recommended Products Related To This Item. 2020 Panini Sticker Cards Gold Joe Burrow Rc #2/10 Extremely Rare Find Another, 2004 Topps Pristine Ben Roethlisberger RC Gold Refractor 01/25 BGS Gem Mint 9.5, 2017 Panini Silver Prizm #269 Patrick Mahomes II RC Rookie PSA 10 " HIGH END ", PATRICK MAHOMES 2017 Panini Limited Rookie RC Auto Jersey Patch 23/149 RPA SP. I have a card that has been graded by precision grading inc. See details. Looks Better. When choosing a gem, use gem grading to help you look for a stonethat will give you the most enjoyment. Pay special attention to these inclusions. I took the GEM out of its case and to a card show. Rookie, 2020-21 Upper Deck THE CUP Kirill Kaprizov RPA Rookie Patch Autograph /24 SSP, Bryce Young Bowman University Chrome 1st Auto True Red 4/5 Refractor Alabama RC. GMA Grading offers many lower-priced grading services. No Altered though or EOT. CSA was a franchise like spin-off of Alan Hager's ASA. Apparently the owners name was George who worked very early on for PSA. PCGS | to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. Also have a Dallas Cowboy team collection. Tourmaline, for example, comes in every possible color. It wouldn't be the best gem choice for someone with a slight build. As long as Razor has no ties to this grading company, I say welcome any legit, objective TPG to the game. Shortly after that, on the Gem Grading Web site (www.gemgrading.net), they put a disclaimer.. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Thus with CTA, I don't know if they were slabbing fake cards, but most definitely over grading cards. Remember, quality doesn't mean better, it means rarer. He said there were submissions, and his suspicion is that these came from Gibraltar (Mich.). A reader alerted me to this one. Taft said he knew the cards were bad just from the scan in some cases; in others, his experience told him the seller had too much supply. You can still get some good cards from them. The ones that grade less with all the corners and edges perfect have those green print lines on them, this card is part of the run that doesn't have those which would make it more of a 10 then any others, I know this card VERY WELL! This is because they do not have the same brand recognition as BGS and PSA. It appears that virtually every significant counterfeit produced in the last three years has come through this group of people from a distribution standpoint, and thus, most likely, from a printing standpoint, he said. https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81641, https://www.freedomcardboard.com/forum/threads/grademycards-com-anyone-ever-seen-this.11214/, "Easily the strangest Encapsulation I have ever seen. PCGS Gold Shield Grading: $ 10 NOTE '64 Choice UNC' AU $75.00 + AU $6.60 postage. (Note that this differs from the highest color grades for colored gemstones). Minor flaws may be, but is not limited to: a slight nick to one corner, a small gloss break or surface scratch, a minor print line or minor refractor line, a minor focus or color imperfection, or a small print spot. CGC Comics Facebook CGC Comics Twitter CGC Comics Instagram CGC Comics Youtube CGC Comics Linkedin 2016 Stevens Fraser $5 PCGS - Gem Unc 66 PPQ - FIRST PREFIX. 99C. Some say their grading was fairly accurate but can't speak from experience. The center will be much lighter than the outside of the gem and have no flashes of light. Capitol was part of an expose back in a 2005 SCD article, which claimed that GEM grading, Capitol Grading and Foremost Grading (FGA) were involved in a big operation in which they were knowingly grading fake cards: "SCD discovered that counterfeits of 1963 Bazooka cards, 1921 W551 strip cards, 1931 W517 strip cards, 1947 Homogenized Bond Bread and 1952 Wheaties were being sold online..but also the Bond Bread and other similar cards that were targeted in that SCD investigation three years ago. Get Directions. Where its really important for dealers to take notice and make some attempt to take action is when you look at the totality of the counterfeit distribution ring its probably the biggest counterfeit card scam to ever hit the hobby. Pokemon Crown Zenith Suicune V Alt Art GG38/GG70 A. A small flaw may be but is not limited to: minor wear on one corner, a gloss break or surface scratch, a print line or refractor line, a focus or color imperfection, or a print spot. Its not Gems policy to do that; we have turned away people who have offered us money to put cards in the holders that were not real., Lorber said if somebody has purchased a proven counterfeit in a Gem or Gem Elite holder, They should send them back to the P.O. All card graders are basically TRAINEES! When you look at the (items being sold by) that Yahoo! Others are quite large and hideous. I personally don't have much experience with CTA and have never come across a holder. #2. 1910 T206 Mordecai Brown Portrait. 1985-86 Star #117 Michael Jordan BGS 9.5 GEM MINT!! GOOD: A grading of GOOD means the Razor functions perfectly but will show age appropriate wear and/or blemishes. If you're examining a faceted gem, look at the facet junctions, too. A PSA Gem Mint 10 card must be free of staining of any kind, but an allowance may be made for slight printing imperfection, if it doesn't impair the overall appeal of the card. I also have another, graded 7 by PSA. Does it bulge or is it symmetrical in all directions? eBay item number: 185794602972. They also grade fakes and cards that have been "trimmed" or "doctored". The article you commented on is about grading companies that went out of business. Apparently you are not the only one! These cookies do not store any personal information. Remember that rarer features don't necessarily mean the stone is "better quality." From my buddy Lucas: "As you can see the slab is massive, that's a regular sized card. Hence, they often demand a higher price per carat. Hager actually developed the 1 to 10 grading scale used by all of the major grading companies today. Look at color, finish, focus, edges, corners, surface, centering, you get pretty good at spotting bad, good and great cards. They graded a trimmed card a gem mint 10. It's very easy to copy what everyone else is doing. In 2021, Tiffany announced its partnership with the two music icons via the About Love Scholarship Program. While other cut factors may be too complex for non-professionals, you can get a good idea of a gem's cutting quality simply by comparing it with other gems. 5,463. If you encounter so-called white aquamarines, buyer beware. GEM 10's all over the place on eBay, so I'd say they really like to hand out perfect grades. Sponsored Affiliates. If poorly shaped, the light will instead "snake" across the surface. Sovereign 460 Back, 1910 T-206 Ty Cobb Red Portrait HOF SGC Cert. Nevertheless, consumers can conductsome basic examinations. They claimed to be using a 'computerized' score, but most claimed that it was just more of a detailed sub-grade calculation. A small person couldn't wear such a huge stone gracefully. A small flaw may be but is not limited to: minor wear on one corner, a gloss break or surface scratch, a print line or refractor line, a focus or color imperfection, or a print spot. The chart will look like the one below. The company's grading scale ranges from 1 (Fair) to 10 (Gem or Mint), including 0.5 scores as well. I do not know for sure, he added. Someone with delicate sensibilities might prefer smaller gems. For example, a -carat, round diamond measures 5 mm in diameter. When I saw the same Yahoo! With Tiffany trailblazing in the social-impact space . How trustworthy is HGA (Hybrid Grading Approach)? Graded Basketball HOF'ers for $100 or Less. 0.99 + 3.55 Postage. Make sure to list each serial # in the form below, and we will message you back with card information. NOTE: Model grading is shown in the "GRADING" tab. Capitol Grading and FGA (Foremost Grading Authority) holders often contain fakes, too". THe grading company was Gem. Gemologists color grade diamonds on how close they come to colorless. from United States. To Lorbers point, SCD has purchased about 20 cards in Gem grading holders, and only four or five were counterfeits. We back our cards, he said. From my research online, the creator of SMA started by cutting magazine clippings and slabbing them, as with this Red Sox Team photo from a 1916 copy of 'Reach magazine. A full-carat diamond measures 6.5 mm. Some of them, its really easy to tell from the scan if you know the cutting characteristics of the original cards, he said. Of course, some gem cutters carve gems into beautiful "freeform" shapes. , 1986 Fleer Basketball Sticker Isiah Thomas RC GMA 9 Mint Perfectly Centered, 1986 - 87 Fleer Basketball Complete Set 143 All Cards PSA 8 NM-MT Jordan RC auth, 1909 T206 SWEET CAPORAL HEINIE WAGNER GRADED SGC AUTHENTIC TOBACCO CARD, 1909-1911 HONUS WAGNER COLGAN'S CHIPS W T206 PHOTO GRADED ORIGINAL SGC AUTHENTIC. That does and has happened. Notably GAI was the first unopened pack grading company and if you find a GAI graded wax pack, odds are that it is authentic and not tampered with. 10 Card is very nice and measures exact including the diagonals! Sign in or register to get started. Gengar VMAX - 157/264 - Fusion Strike - Ace Grading - 2021 - 10 - GEM MINT. Feel free to comment below or send any images to chris@allvintagecards.com. 1986-87 Fleer Basketball Near Complete Set 131/132+ 11/11 Stickers w/o #57 Nice! Non-professionals have an easier time examining cabochons or cabs, gems cut with flat bottoms and domed tops. Still, we have many cards in circulation from other now defunct grading companies. Used with permission. The International Gem Society (IGS) is the world's top resource for gem professionals, enthusiasts, and industry content. https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=225579. It will be almost impossible for a company to be successful without a large hobby name behind it, and even then, tough the same. Break the slab and send it to PSA SGC or whatever you prefer, Waste of money. First, look at the shape of the stone. Gemologists usually describe gem color by referring to three properties: hue, tone, and saturation. The few legit cards that might be found in their holders are horribly overgraded. Based on my research PGS was at the time a decent grader, and have seen some PGS cards cross over fairly well to either SGC or PSA. There have been sellers of Gem-graded cards on Yahoo!s auction site as well, and those sellers offer a connection to the October, 2003, investigation by SCD. Selling lab-created cut gems can be quite difficult. Then, hold the stone a short distance from your head and rotate the gem slowly. Look at the facets, the surface areas that reflect light. One of the cards that I saw fairly early in this was the 1989 Pittsburgh Greats Dan Marino, Taft said. We have a professional team of hobby enthusiasts along with modern technology to accurately grade and verify each . My guess is that it would come back altered. However, they can have considerable price differences. Nothing you have said is proof that you know anything about card grading. 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