1990 Charlie Christian Powered by SMF | 95. 7/10 = Solid Picks Either Sam Cooke, Fats Domino, Roy Orbison, or anyone from Motown (remember, they were taught how to move about at high society functions). It is nice to see that you can be objective about The Byrds importance although you admit to not being a fan, but I think your dislike for Neil is getting in the way of your objectivity. I would like to do the # ratings of performers of every class, for this I'll be giving them a number between 0 -10 out of 10 based on influence & innovation on popular music. Donna Summer (middle 3rd) 25. CCR (Level 3) My mistake, I met question 9 and "most nicest", not 7 and "most mean". 5)Elvis Costello-Alison, and I cannot name another song. 188. at the best online prices at eBay! Posted by Plebeian on Thursday, 05/20/2021 @ 16:03pm. Fats Domino. This need to be updated. "We have developed computational methods to measure historical significance through analysis of Wikipedia and other data sources. Brenda Lee: 6/10 Whitney Houston: 9/10 Their experimentation? The Doors "If You Can Want" The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon. The Moody Blues "Don't Let It End (Till You Let It Begin)-Betty Everett the Studio Group Lou Reed: 7/10 - Formatting might look weird, but I didn't want to take up crazy amounts of space. Here is how the artists in the pyramid sit relative to the rest of the artists in rock and roll. " The Moody Blues: 5/10 The first part of his career was spent as the alpha, the best player on a title team, and then a distraught MVP candidate surrounded by a bad team. on Friday, 03/8/2013 @ 16:03pm, Responses below it looks like your asking only about Performer inductees, or maybe Early Influence, too. Radiohead belongs in 3, not 4. this is a statement of fact, no judgement involved. Neil Diamond: 7/10 Public Enemy (lower 2nd) The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 . 173. 1997 Electric Light Orchestra - 1 131. Bob Marley, too. B. Bill Withers For some reason they never get as much credit as they deserve (especially when compared to other Motown artists like Marvin Gaye, The Supremes and The Temptations). I like a lot of them. N.W.A Gasol won't get overlooked for the actual hall because of his int'l resume, but his NBA resume is pretty damn solid too. 4/10 = Marginal 225. Least deserving inductee (anyone but Madonna, ABBA, or any Hip Hop inductees*)? Then he takes it further by completely reevaluating not only how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine De Bravo, Little Willie G., Oran "Juice" Jones. Anyways, hope you browsed through. 190. We could spend the rest of this post going in circles on him. "Determination" The Contours. Level 4: Probably 1993 (Doors & CCR), or else the first two classes (lots of 50's/early 60's favorites). 1999 Dirk Nowitski (up from Level 2, below Mikan). Very, very influential among a myriad of genres and artists. 2001 And I agree on John Lennon (or any Beatle) as a solo artist. Sister Rosetta Tharpe doesn't count because she's an Early Influence inductee which was not taken into account on this pyramid. The Stooges (Level 3) it was neutral. Bon Jovi (while not a critical favorite, the band is still selling well into the new 10's) A lot of the acts in Level 1 and 2 should be upgraded too. Most of what I would change has been listed earlier. 226. 199. 2/10 = Failure Level 3 1. Pearl Jam -Most mean? Patti Smith 6/10 = Decent Artists I forgot to factor influence. Donna Summer (middle 3rd) Weirdest: I agree with the consensus, Michael Jackson and Frank Zappa. Al Ciraldo Voice of Georgia Tech Athletics. 1986 Robert Johnson 29. There is an interesting parallel to the pyramid--sometimes they agree, sometimes not so much. 6. And when is Poco going to move up. R.E.M. If you prefer to look at the Hall of Famers in a sortable list, here is where to go. Songs originally recorded by THE MIRACLES later covered by other artists. Kevin Garnett, 24. He's going to jump 30-40 spots regardless. Isaac Hayes "After All" The Supremes, The Marvelettes. 9/10 = All Time Greats "Who's Loving You" The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa. Nina Simone: 9/10 The chances of me ever getting back into The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, and their compatriots are practically nonexistent. "100 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME". ******* I think all of the others were placed appropriately. I'm just having too much fun discovering and acquiring music dating from the cylinder era up through the JFK administration. Bon Jovi- 1 1990 I can narrow it down to two; Bob Dylan (every singer-songwriter since) and Jimi Hendrix (every hard rock guitarist since). Run - DMC (Level 4) Fats Domino comes off as a classy and humble man in every interview and film I've seen of him. Del Shannon: 5/10 3. 1997 Bill Monroe I'm not going to rehash the r/NBA argument about Harden. Weirdest: Frank Zappa by one point over Michael Jackson. 1989 The Ink Spots Almost all of their hits were self-written, making them unique among Motown acts. The Moody Blues Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7) The Doobie Brothers-1 Adrian Dantley, 75. The Grateful Dead: 9/10 148. Game 6 of the 2016 WCF gets him to this point almost by itself. Also available in . Bill Walton. Plays. NWA - 3 (=Public Enemy) Posted by The_Claw on Friday, 01/26/2018 @ 04:11am. Lloyd Price If he comes back 100% and leads Brooklyn to a title? ARE YOU KIDDING ME ? If we remove people who probably killed someone from contention, Paul Stanley's complete lack of grace during the induction process stands out. Yes, this high. Guns N' Roses DEFINITELY !! Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. "Mickey's Monkey" Mother's Finest, Martha and the Vandellas, The Supremes, The Hollies, The Young Rascals, John Mellencamp, Lou Christie, Cannibal & the Headhunters, The C.A.Quintet, The Defenders, Chris Catena, The Sugar Beats, The Mac Truque. 6. Led Zeppelin: 10/10 Devo (Level 1) Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 17:40pm, Hi, Zach. 2/10 = Failure 161. Pearl Jam and Nina Simone are borderline Level 2/3 acts, in my opinion. If youre curious about Simmons precise words, you can listen to the podcast episode for the ones that have exact dates. Demote. 1998 Jelly Roll Morton Tina Turner: 9/10 See the rankings as for this Basketball Hall of Fame Sets set on 6/19/2022 7:31:31 AM. 17. How Far Can This Version of James Harden Take the Sixers? And oh, yeah, let's get the Moody Blues IN before we decide which tier they should be on. I too personally dislike thier music except "Express Yourself" and I just don't understand why so meny praise them when all they did was steer rap down a more gangester and racist path. After all, I am a huge "progressive rock" supporter, n'est-ce pas? Led Zeppelin. Gotta say, pretty bad ranking. 13. Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? Rating Numbers: Their career ended through poor records and/or changing tastes. Simon & Garfunkel: 10/10 Dolly Parton (Level 2) Posted by Tony on Friday, 08/8/2014 @ 17:19pm, Overrated, or too high on the pyramid: Ramones, Elton John, Little Richard, The Clash, Elvis Costello, Aerosmith, Blondie, Alice Cooper, Genesis. The success of the Miracles actually launched the Motown Records label, and, according to Motown Records founder, Berry Gordy, without the Miracles,the Motown Record Corporation would not have been possible." 163. He could've won the 2011 MVP. I was not alive for either group's heyday, so I can't speak to their innovation upon their arrival on the music scene. Buddy Holly (and the Crickets) Level 1: Jackson Browne: 7/10 Sex Pistols -Civilized? Posted by Yours Truly on Tuesday, 09/25/2018 @ 14:24pm, Posted by Yours Truly on Tuesday, 09/25/2018 @ 17:10pm, Sex Pistols should be moved way up, Id put them at level one in my opinion. "Who's Gonna Take The Blame" Capone N. Noreaga (as the basis of their song "Live On Live Long"). ), Dolly Parton, Boyz II Men, Human Nature, among many others I agree The Miracles are definitely a Level-4 act and agree with every word of your post. Buffalo Springfield: 6/10 They kept Sabbath out for a while (dumb call). Dire Straits, Nina Simone #5? Beck (Level 1 or 2) All the Star Wars films On point! I would also put Blue Cheer, Steppenwolf, Mountain, and Iron Butterfly on the pyramid too. "Baby Baby Don't Cry" Gerald Wilson and His Orchestra, Projekt. I also love the story about a lady who got a knock on her door and when she opened it it was Pirince and another guy. Posted by Tommy Wimmer on Monday, 09.24.18 @ 01:42am 1992 Hal Greer, 54. SRV & Double Trouble: 7/10 In my honest opinion, Rush should also be placed a lot higher, at least, preferably in the middle of the 4th tier, slightly lower than Pink Floyd and slightly below, soon to be inducted, Yes. 210. And where does Shaq rank on Bills 100-player Hall of Fame Pyramid? KING, Posted by KING on Monday, 06/29/2015 @ 01:24am. 59. The Notorious B.I.G.-2 Did they hit sell millions of records, have over a dozen hits or win a lot of awards? Steve Miller Do you have to consider them in any "best of all-time" discussions? Steve Miller: Level 1, Posted by SotN on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 03:31am. Bill Withers: 6/10 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers Wilt, 6. 93. Metallica For example, in the Aug. 16, 2018 episode, Simmons told Curry his latest ranking of #16-#27 and had Curry at #24. Is Paul a better athlete than Stockton? Sex Pistols (Level 3) If I had to create a pyramid from this year's nominations alone, this is how I would create it. 6. Y'all haven't added the new inductees yet:Chicago,Cheap Trick,NWA,Steve Miller and Deep Purple. He's Level 4 by Isiah. Deep Purple Simmons believes that Nolan Ryan was a Tier 4 Baseball HoFer, while acknowledging that several people wouldn't put Nolan Ryan in the Hall at all." Depeche Mode Los Lobos The charter of the Pyramid states no MVP can drop below Level 3 unless it's for a good reason. This pyramid, while not updated, has provided a lot of inspiration for my list that I'm currently writing: the Rock and Roll Hall of Famers ranked from best to worst. Jack Twyman, 107. Janis Joplin The Mamas and the Papas Is it fair to swap players based on one series at the tail end of their careers? He was a Top 10 guy for basically the entire 2010s. Level 5 I still listen to modern rock/indie radio at times, but for the most part, I start losing sustained interest around 1998 or '9. He's a spot below Worthy because Big Game James was a better overall player, but Parker deserves to be acknowledged - despite the fact that he might be a shitty dude. Randy Newman - I didn't change any rankings for anyone who retired before that year. Walt Frazier. The Buddy Holly Story [same thing here] the doobie brothers - 1 125. Posted by Roy on Friday, 01/26/2018 @ 07:27am, And here is my opinion about the position of the 2018 inductees: Check out the sidebar on the left for many more excursions into wormhole that is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Sly & The Family Stone: 10/10 217. Yes - 2 204. Cream: 9/10 174. Nine Inch Nails-Level 2 33. My recent finds include Whispering Jack Smith, Billy Eckstine (What a voice this man had! We rank historical figures just as Google ranks webpages, by integrating a diverse set of measurements about their reputation (including PageRank, article length, and readership) into estimates of their fame, explained by a combination of achievement (gravitas) and celebrity. Kate Bush (Level 1) Parliament - Funkadelic (Level 3) I would like to see it. 40. Level 3: Santana: 8/10 170. A great scorer, but I'm not sure he was ever a good enough all-around player to be the best player on a champ despite that one year with the Nuggets. 137. Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? Posted by DarinRG on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 00:04am. As a link between boogie-woogie, jump blues, and rhythm & blues, he is a highly important name and should not be ranked lower than less relevant names like Buffalo Springfield, The (Young) Rascals, Jackson Browne, The Righteous Brothers, and Gene Pitney. 2005 The people at the top are more of the big timers, to me. I fully expect him to skyrocket up these rankings as soon as this summer. Jeff Beck Nine Inch Nails (Level 2) Paul McCartney at 2? I'm tempted to group him with Dominique in Level 2, but Carmelo didn't run into Bird ever year. It's that "X" Factor that separates true legends from also-rans.The Men from the Boys. ELO: 6/10 Buddy Holly & The Crickets: 10/10 The Go-Go's-1 But if there was an "Early Influences" pyramid, then Sister Rosetta Tharpe would at least be a 4. (Believe me, people I've talked to actually think that!) 104. Simmons believes that Nolan Ryan was a Tier 4 Baseball HoFer, while acknowledging that several people wouldn't put Nolan Ryan in the Hall at all. Ricky Nelson: 9/10 7. "You've Really Got a Hold on Me" Percy Sledge, Barbara McNair, The Beatles, The Temptations, The Supremes, The Zombies, Aidan Smith, Sonny & Cher, Mickey Gilley, Eddie Money, Cyndi Lauper, The Bobs, Greg Brown, Small Faces, Bobby McFerrin, Derrick Harriott, UFO8, Mike and The Mechanics, and She & Him among many others. Jerry Lee Lewis Is anyone ever going to move up fro level 4 to level 5? Green Day: 9/10 2016 7/10 = Solid Picks We correct for the passage of time in a principled way, so we can fairly compare the significance of historical figures of different eras." Still recording new material and performing around places. Red Hot Chili Peppers 168. Bill Simmons remembers the day when he learned "The Secret" of basketball from Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas, then built his New York Times no. Posted by John R.C on Wednesday, 05/12/2021 @ 23:17pm. 2005, 1999 like I said, a lot of great years, Posted by Philip on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 21:58pm. 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