Close the skimmer valve tightly and keep the pump running (and draining) until the main drains begin to suck air. As you go, Measure carefully from the track to the floor, all around the pool, to be sure that the pool depth will match the ordered liner wall height, consistently around the pool. I need to re-trowel just the deep end of my pool as water got behind it and caused the sand to slide under the liner. You can also disassemble light and tape light shell inside of light opening. The vac must stay running until the water level is about 6 above the floor, or just beginning to cover the hose. When the water level is up to the bottom of the light, have someone with long arms lean way over the edge of the pool and screw on the large light niche ring and gasket. When you order a pool liner, you may also consider ordering wall foam and adhesive. If you can afford it, I would always recommend choosing a thicker liner 28 or 30 mil, rather than a standard 20 mil pool liner. Whew! Run an extension cord to a nearby outlet. When the pool is full, install the faceplates and gaskets very tightly with a proper size screwdriver. Continue to fill as you remove the vacuum hose and duct tape and pop this area into the liner bead track. Once you know 3 of the 4 measures, you can extrapolate the fourth, as long as (E+F+G+H = A). Float the pool light across the pool, and hook/duct tape your string/wire to the pool light cord. thanks. Crank them down until you hear the plastic squeak and creak. In some cases, you may need to unset and reset the pool liner several times before you get it set without wrinkles. And does it bind up calcium too? Large pools, or L-shapes may need two vacuums running before the liner will set fully. Bend down and lock the corners into the tracks. Reconnect the cord to the string securely, and pull the cord back through the conduit to the J-box. ), for your skimmer, main drain, pool light and wall returns. We noticed that the liner is not tucked in the track. Look for the tags that indicate deep end or shallow end, and orient the liner as you prepare to pull it carefully across the pool. The J-box is usually off the deck, directly behind the light, or on older pools under the diving board. I seen in a video to tape cardboard over one of the skimmers and insert the hose there do you recommend that practice? Be careful to keep sand out of the main drain ring and cover screw holes. Can i pump them out to stop water from going in the pool? Pennies or Popsicle sticks can be useful as a shim to hold the liner in place as you move it around to line it up to the pool corners. If the floor is a sand bottom, you may just try to work the pebble into the floor. New this pool thing thanks, Hi, for inground vinyl pools, that sounds like the coping you are referring to. Davy: I fill my spa from well water so I always use a metal-be-gone type of product when I start. Or if not, heres some help: Accurate measurements are key to getting a liner that fits like a glove. Cut it with your razor knife into long strips, roll-up and remove in sections. Ihave heard so many people say Dont want run my well dry, or burn out my pump but that is really rare. Be sure to order new pool light gaskets, and possibly a new light ring as well, if it looks aged, yellowed or is cracked or warped. Typically, the Kand Imeasures are the same, but dont assume, they can be different. Some wrinkles just naturally flatten when a few inches of water is on top of them, and the weight of a few inches of water can be helpful in smoothing out wrinkles in the floor, by pushing them toward the wall, or spreading them out. New faceplates for the skimmer, drain and returns are also recommended, as older plastic faceplates will warp and crack, which makes a poor seal that can seep and weep water. Dont pull up on the liner as you make your initial screw holes, leave a little slack. Also an old liner may develop wrinkles when re-set, or perhaps not fit as well. Two people are needed to measure the pool, and you dont need to drain the pool, but the water should be clean, so you can see the bottom clearly. Then, trim out the vinyl carefully and close to the edge of the step strip. A clip board and pencil to write down the pool measurements. Green water is OK! So you just need to buy or rent a thin submersible pump of 1.5 hp or so, something substantial, not a cheap little pool cover pump, but a real sump pump- connect a discharge hose or pipe, and lower it into the dry well, and then plug it in. Discharge the pool water too close to the pool, and it can weep into the pool, or put pressure on weak walls. Lower raised areas by pounding them down or scraping off high spots, and fill in the low spots. You can use a cordless drill as well, but be sure to use a large #3 Phillips bit. Returns have a permanent rubber gasket, like a step section, but also use a gasket on top of the liner. Vinyl pool light niche gaskets are found in the category of light niche parts. What is the the metal part that goes around the rim of the top of the pool called.it is secured to the concrete. I am installing new step mouldings w/ new liner: Looks like I install the mouldings to the steps first after liner is in position & salt bages against liner to hold in position. Some inground pools can drain most of the water out of the pool from the main drains, using the filter pump. If you have any areas that are cracked or broken, Super Glue makes a quick repair. I would call the company out and have them use liner lock to secure the liner back into the track important to keep water out and stop it from coming out of the track more. Get the last bit with a mop and bucket, large sponge, a shop vac or your cover pump. Order the correct gaskets (they differ by Manuf. Small sandbags or water bags laid under the bottom step, on the liner, is helpful to simulate the weight of the water. The vinyl covering the floor should also lay flat, and lift off the floor at the sides, where it meets the wall. When the water level reaches the point where its almost reached the first step, or bottom step, its time to screw on the step strips, the 3 long plates and about 50 screws, that gaskets the liner around the steps. Falling into empty pools can be hazardous! The gasket goes under the liner, and the plate goes on top of the liner. Most pools will vary from the original specs, and can slightly shift over a period of many years, so its always recommended to remeasure the pool, completely. If you have a step section, lay a 24 across the front of the steps and duct tape the liner to it, at the same height at the track. Then once it is locked into the track, the Liner Lock product is used. Next step is to hook up your Cyclone Blower Vac to set the liner. Can I leave the amerlite pool light in the stainless steel housing and pull it out just prior or after to installing the liner light ring? To get every last drop of water, and drain the pool completely, remove the main drain cover and use a sponge and bucket. If you noticed rust around the step strips, inspect the gasket and replace the heavy rubber gasket if necessary. Everything I read says the take the new liner to the deep end with the arrow facing the shallow end to start installation. If the liner is brittle, faded and old, it may snap or break when trying to reset the liner with a vacuum. Leave enough cord behind the pool light to pull it up on deck for service. To measure width of the pool (I, J, K), use a pool pole held vertically in the corner of the hopper, and measure horizontally from the liner track to the pole. do you glue it to keep it in place ? The remaining water can be removed with a pool cover pump or small submersible pump. Do I need to drain my pool to do this? Close up pictures are helpful to find the correct type of liner track, as there are several types. A little more math, and you can figure out how long it will take to fill the pool from a hose. After all screws are tight, cut out the section of vinyl and walk out of the pool! Inspect the liner track at the top of the wall, and clean it out with a hand brush or pool brush. If your fill water has less than perfect water chemistry, or contains high levels of minerals and metals, such as common in well-water, consider using a pre-filter on your garden hose. But only if the liner is young, and still pliable enough. Planning your installation during spring break, or stretched out over several weekends, may help in obtaining helpers. Dont cut out the vinyl inside until the faceplate or ring is installed. If this area is wavy, and not fairly level, it can look odd. This pulls the liner tight against the pool wall. Pay particular attention to where the wall meets the floor. If you have any corners at all, you can use it as a starting point. But, monitor the outflow, and if the flow rate drops considerably, allow the well to catch up, or call in some delivered pool water. Leave 3-4 feet of cord coiled up inside the light niche, to be able to pull the light out for future repair. Hi Tracy, not normal, but not uncommon. With just a few inches of water in the hopper bottom, measurement form for an inground pool liner, Inground Pool Construction and Groundwater Issues, Raising Pool Equipment for Flood Protection, Flooded Inground Pool: 10-Steps to Recovery. Dont fill over your vac hose, it can be hard to remove when under water. When you get ready to begin, the first steps are to safely drain the pool to the storm drain or far from the pool, where it wont flow back under the pool. If the liner is in OK shape then go for it, pulling the liner out of the way, re-trowel the floor, and then re-set the liner with a strong vacuum. Is this normal or should the liner be in the track and not already pulling away on the corners? I have an 18 x 36 rectangle with an 8 deep end hopper where is the best place to insert the vacuum nozzle (I have two skimmers one in the deep and one in the shallow end. Wall foam is easily installed using an adhesive spray, using 2 or 3 cans per pool. I will assume you have already measured your in-ground pool with our liner measuring forms, following the steps in a previous blog post written by Jackie on how to measure for an inground vinyl liner. Install the screw hider strips and youre done! Most hoses can do close to 10 gpm, 600 gallons per hour, or 14,400 gallons per 24 hrs. Gaskets:Most step sections have a heavy duty rubber step gasket that holds up to many liner changes. This is discussed as Option 3, in this blog post Inground Pool Construction and Groundwater Issues. Lumber can also be used, such as several 112 boards laid across the top. Most wells can handle filling a pool of 20-30,000 gallons. For the vacuum hose, I usually use a mid point of a long wall, somewhere equidistant to all points. If you have an inground pool light, with a cord that runs through the wall, you will have to remove the light completely, to install a new liner. To install the step strips, start with the bottom strip, and with a cordless drill, screw all of the bottom strip screws in place, starting in the center and working your way to the outside. There may be a fee, and you may need to provide your own hose, from the hydrant to your pool, but it may be an option for some people. Hi Fran, maybe probably. However! After cleaning the surfaces, use small strips of duct tape to secure the skimmer, pool light and main drain gasket, the one that goes under the liner (theres a second gasket used on top of the liner). And, most pools have square measures with both ends and both sides being the exact same length. If the liner fit is either too tight or too loose in the track, you can use strips of Liner Lock, a rubber wedge that you push-in between the liner and the track. Keep the vacuum running until the shallow end is covered in 3-6 of water! Wall Foam and spray adhesive if desired or needed, New faceplates and gaskets for skimmer, returns, main drain, light. Carefully remove, with a large #3 Philips screwdriver, the faceplates for the skimmer(s), wall return(s), main drains, pool lights, and pool step sections. Be Prepared for the Prep Work, so you can finish wall and floor prep as fast as possible. Standard thickess is 20-ga. Make sure all valves on the filter system are closed to prevent sucking air through the pipes. There are two gaskets used, one behind the liner, and one on top of the liner. Hi Bruce, normally I see them cut at an angle to meet, like a picture frame, with 45 deg corners but yes, with rounded edges, so as not to poke at the liner. If you have a pool light, now is the time to install the ring and new gasket, and reinstall the light fixture into the niche. These are fairly standard, but its best to use the form provided by the dealer that you plan to order the liner from. Most inground vinyl pools have a geometric floor shape, with precise angles. Five or ten gallons spilled wont hurt the floor of the pool, but dont remove the floor of the liner with inches of water still left in the hopper. When measuring F, H, I and K dont measure down the slope, measure horizontally to a vertical pole. When done measuring, check that A and B measurements add up to the total of all length and width measures. Use duct tape to seal up where the hose goes behind the liner, and to seal up the skimmer lid or a pool light cord. Buy your skimmer gaskets and main drain gaskets in pairs, once goes under the liner, and one gasket on top of the liner. Do this from outside the pool, leaning over the edge. Also, most warranties are pro-rated, so a 25 year warranty may have little value over time. Specifically, inground liner warranties only cover you for defects in materials or workmanship. Hi William, that would be something, however there is only vinyl available for pool liners. Pull Up the Slack:Lay down on the pool deck next to the pool step section, and lean way over the edge to grab the vinyl on the floor. If you see rust, this indicates that it has been leaking. Locate the screw holes under the liner, and install the ring and new gasket. Do not measure down the side-slope, the measuring tape should be horizontal. Installing your own inground pool liner is easy, when you take it step by step. Good Luck Ive had similar situations Ive worked with before PS while the pool is drained, you could measure the pool for a new liner, just in case you need it (now or later)- and because its more accurate to measure when empty. If necessary, use small sand bags to help hold the liner up against the wall, under the step. Dont make any holes for the step section, until the water level is up to the bottom step. You may have measures available from a previous liner order, or you can probably dig up the original spec sheet which shows the length, width, depth and radius of the corners. Hi Duane, no not at all, above ground pool steps are installed with water in the pool. how to install new stair seal does it go on outside or in ? In some cases you can just use a lot of duct tape, but for larger steps, youll need to lay something flat across the top of the steps, and duct tape that to the deck and to the liner, to be able to achieve a full seal. You could also use a push broom or pool brush on a pole, to gently push the vinyl in directions away from the angle of the fold, or wrinkle. Hi, been there before! A pool pole is used as a vertical rod to measure distances across the floor. I dont usually use the skimmer, but just pull open a second of the liner (about 6) and pop the hose in, then seal it up with duct tape. While inspecting your walls, you may decide to duct tape the wall joints, where the panels come together. If not, well there is no way to get it out except for getting it out. Hang liner and install gasket/sealing ring. So, if the liner is old and faded get a new liner first. Dont use incorrect screws, or non-stainless steel screws. Darker swirl patterns will hide wall and floor imperfections more than light blue liners. I need to install new step pad and new steps. Dont install any faceplates until the pool is full of water (except main drain). They may need to lower the water level a foot or two, to be able to get enough stretch, to pull the liner back into the track, and may use some heat on the vinyl, for the same reason. Measure the pole at the point where it intersects the string, and then subtract the distance from the deck to the liner track, or bead. Even with vermiculite or concrete floors, try not to enter the pool, and if you must, walk very gently. Install the main drain gasket, ring and cover when 3-6 has filled the deep end. Leaving your pool empty for very long could damage the pool walls or floor, if freak weather and floods move in before you have a chance to refill the pool. I do use the bromide starter. Wait to drain the pool until you have everything ready to go, and a good weather forecast. The face plates for your skimmer and return should be replaced if they have some age to them. Remove the main drain faceplate, and replace the gasket, taping it in place so the holes line up, and so it wont shift while under the liner. Carefully pull the liner from the track by lifting up and outwards, the plastic track may be brittle and can crack if stressed. It neednt be absolutely perfect, as most patterned liners will hide minor floor imperfections, but try to get it as level and even as you can. To measure depth of shallow end (D), just use a rigid measuring tape, being careful to measure from the bead or track, to the flat floor. Your helper can do the same on the opposite side of the steps. Clean it up as well as you can, using rough sandpaper, steel brush or wire wheel. When the liner is positioned properly, install the 3 strips around the front of the steps, bottom and both sides. the worst that could happen is that it wears a hole in the liner after several years of the water weight, or pool cleaner running over it, then you can pull it thru the vinyl and apply a small vinyl patch over the hole. Once all 3 step strips are screwed on, go over each one again to make sure they are double-tight. With just a few inches of water in the hopper bottom, carefully walk down to the deep end and put on the main drain faceplate ring, top gasket and main drain cover. The weather does play an important part on the liner installation also. Measure depth from the flat floor, (not the top of any coved sand) to the bottom of the liner bead track at top of wall. Be sure to crank those screws down very tightly, using a #3 Phillips. If you have a multiport valve, set it to waste, and run out a long discharge hose, away from the pool (and your neighbors!). To prevent any leaks make sure the gaskets are solid and the screws are tight. Large 24s can be used to roughly screed flat areas, finishing with the trowel. Safely store your screws, so not even one gets lost, we usually use Zip bags for the screws. Then cut vertically from the floor, up thru the top bead in several spots around the pool. I would suggest using a double-dose of bromide starter next time you drain and refill. Now do I cut the new mouldings on a 45 angle @ the bottom corners and round them off, or just but the side mouldings to the top of the bottom one ?- I have end caps if butted. Once the floor is ready install the liner quickly before debris blows into the empty pool. Turn the vac back on and you should have most wrinkles removed. You will need to drain ALL of the water out of the pool. You may be able to reach it from above, hanging upside down, or standing in the deep end reaching up. It is not uncommon to need to shift the liner a few inches, if it ends up slightly out of alignment. Now you can start the filter system, balance the water chemistry and enjoy your new inground pool liner. Wait until the water is up to the screw holes before screwing in the bottom step strip. Try to do the work from up above if you have a sand floor, or use two 2x3 boards to gently move around the floor. Liner vacs should be left on until water reaches the shallow end, hopefully you dont have any big problems with wrinkles or a liner that slipped towards the deep end. Now you can cut out the vinyl inside the faceplate, trimming it close to the edge with a razor knife. A vinyl liner installation is easily done with two people, having a third or fourth person on the job is helpful, especially when you are pulling the liner across the pool, and locking the bead into the track. From a Truck:Expensive to do, it can cost over $1000 in some areas to fill a pool. Not widely available if you need to buy, but can be found at pool distributors, and a few websites carry inground vinyl pool coping. However! I have two pipes one on each side of the deep end i have been told they are dry wells. Inspect the surfaces of the wall where the faceplates attach skimmer, returns, light and steps. If there are wrinkles in the liner, turn the vac off and work the vinyl, trying to pull the wrinkles toward one wall or the other. The Pleatco Pre-filter removes particles below 1 micron in size, capturing metals, minerals, dissolved solids and byproducts of water treatment processes. if not what is the next most durable liner. Screw down very tightly with a #3 Phillips screwdriver. You can also use a large, heavy duty shop-vac of at least 5 hp to set the liner. If the liner looks loose or is wrinkled, pull up on it, or push out on it. Without water in the pool, be gentle on the step section, it could crack. 20,000+ gallons is a lot of water, be sure that you are not eroding or over saturating a hillside. If there is anything that looks like rust or severe mold or mildew, you should scrape and paint these areas then follow-up by adding Wall Foam to keep such things from staining or damaging your new pool liner. Then install the main drain cover securely. Cut out liner inside of ring and pull light shell up to deck and reassemble. Dont forget your name and contact information! Wait to install step, light, skimmer and return faceplates until water level is up to them. Gas powered trash pumps can pass solids up to 1 in size. Some wet/dry vacs arent strong enough for the job. Set up the vac on the edge of the pool, in the middle of a long side. Thank you! When you have completed the wall prep and you have checked the weather to be certain that you can continue from this point to completion, we can begin to remove the liner from the pool floor. Make sure your replacement gaskets and faceplates are exact match before liner day. Around the deep end of the pool, you can choose to trowel in place, a safety ledge of 4-6 where the wall meets the floor. Hi John, the light will have to come out before you install the liner. If you have a main drain, you will need to install the faceplate ring and the lid at this point, after the liner is set. That was a long post! Warranty is another way that liner manufacturers differentiate their products, but keep in mind that a true warranty claim, for defects in materials or manufacture, is rare. Clean the step gasket, or use the step gasket kit if it looks damaged. In our area, they charge about $250 for the first 5000 gallons, and then $200 for each additional and they just fill their trucks from fire hydrants! I hope Ive answered all of your questions about how to install an inground pool liner, if you have other questions, give our liner experts a call at 800-288-7946, or Leave a Reply below for a personal answer! Continue all the way around the pool, locking the liner snugly into the track. The clips are just to hide the area where the sections are joined. Liner warranties typically cover seam or bead separation, but wont cover punctures, or sun or chemical deterioration. Leave the floor section of vinyl liner in place for now, keeping it in the pool until you are ready to work on the floor. Some are only 5 gpm, however. Your helper should eyeball the pole to make sure it looks vertical, and is not tilted. cord, to not trip the breaker. At the pool light junction box, pull up on the string/wire to pull the pool light cord back into the conduit, and into the j-box, where the power can be reconnected and turned on again. What are your thoughts? I am trying to replace my liner but i have a high water table and can not stop the water even with hydro cement. Some people cut a large section from the old liner and lay that across the steps, taping or weighting it down. Very difficult to remove and replace, but it can be patched with epoxy putty, or painted. Lock in the Bead: Two people work in opposite directions, locking the liner bead into the track. Switch sides and measure the width of the opposite side wall.
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